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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 13, 2014, 09:40:27 AM »
Some questions on your storage. How can you have the burner off if the manual says the temp can't drop below 150? And also keep it from freezing? I was going to put in a 80 hot water tank and have the garage pull from it.
Here is some pictures, I already tried to send them once but it failed, so trying again.
White pex is 1" comes from boiler to inside, then it has a T and splits off, one goed to the exchanger in the furance, the other goes to the Plate it is a AIC m#LB31-10XJ. The blue is the DHW(80gallon), goes from plate to a pump then over to a T on the inlet of HWT, HWT outlet has a T and runs back to the plate. This was before they tryed to install a mixing valve. Epic fail. ran out of water in one shower and I told them it was wrong. Also tried hooking up the DHW pump to the t-stat on HWT and I also said that was going to work since the HWT is 220 and pump is 110. So these are pics of it now.
Here is some pictures, I already tried to send them once but it failed, so trying again.
White pex is 1" comes from boiler to inside, then it has a T and splits off, one goed to the exchanger in the furance, the other goes to the Plate it is a AIC m#LB31-10XJ. The blue is the DHW(80gallon), goes from plate to a pump then over to a T on the inlet of HWT, HWT outlet has a T and runs back to the plate. This was before they tryed to install a mixing valve. Epic fail. ran out of water in one shower and I told them it was wrong. Also tried hooking up the DHW pump to the t-stat on HWT and I also said that was going to work since the HWT is 220 and pump is 110. So these are pics of it now.
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 12, 2014, 06:35:53 PM »
I do not know where there is a 81. There is interstate 80. I am 15 north of it. And 15 mins from 79
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 12, 2014, 12:12:58 PM »
The dealer told the installer I have you what profab sent to me. So it's your problem you installed it. SCOTT I AM TRUELY SORRY. It has been a rough winter and had a very bad day. My bad. And to all who read it also SORRY ! My first electric bill when the winter hit was $712. I will get more pics. I have been busy and soccer games for my girls.
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 12, 2014, 12:06:44 PM »
Welder just left "I am not touching it"
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 12, 2014, 06:37:01 AM »
Thank you slimjim. I live near Mercer pa. What pics do you want of burner or inside hack job
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 12, 2014, 05:41:48 AM »
I would love advise. And I apologize! I want it fixed but not a bandaide tossed on it. It's plugged up now due to the air not getting in. I cleaned it and 10 holes plugged solid. Took over 2 hours and the door seal leaks. Looks like hell. But I informed them all about it. I even slapped on some metal duct tape to help me get by. Do you still clean it? Yes toss in the pro former? Yes cause I am stuck with it.
And to top it all off I now have a water pump leaking. Spilling out between the motor and the pump. Great!
And to top it all off I now have a water pump leaking. Spilling out between the motor and the pump. Great!
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 12, 2014, 12:11:06 AM »
Also requested a refund. No comment. Installer said the dealer blamed him. Dealer is acting like lowes or Home Depot. Issues take it to the manufacture not me!
I had a central boiler and hardy dealer to look at it. All I can say is they both said wow. On inside and out. But what do you expect from me. I am not the burner expert. You all can't provide the best burner, instulation and maintenance or how much wood to use. It's all a demand thing. I get that now. And thanks once again for your info.
I guess I should have just powered the unit down that morning in feb and left it freeze. But I did not.
But what done is done. My bad or there's.
the question is how can it be wright?
I had a central boiler and hardy dealer to look at it. All I can say is they both said wow. On inside and out. But what do you expect from me. I am not the burner expert. You all can't provide the best burner, instulation and maintenance or how much wood to use. It's all a demand thing. I get that now. And thanks once again for your info.
I guess I should have just powered the unit down that morning in feb and left it freeze. But I did not.
But what done is done. My bad or there's.
the question is how can it be wright?
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 11:59:16 PM »
Theboiler. Thank you for your questions. My house was electric forced air heat. Until I received a $721 bill. Electric got shut off. And a homemade wood burner was already in the basement. We used it for that winter. That summer removed it and had a Tractor supply Clayton forced air stove
http://m.tractorsupply.com/en/store/united-states-stove-clayton-wood-coal-stove-with-draft-kit-twin-800-cfm-blowers
A heat calculator? No.
I understand what your asking. I work with a/c units. But before that gets thrown at me. I fix them not install them.
I think I used less wood with the Clayton.
Issues was we got the house to 74 then needed to stock wood. After stocking the house was 64 or less and was a cycle like that.
I live where there is no choice in heating. Wood or electric.
My parents house burnt due to a fire and has bothered me since. I was the one taking care of it. They ship themselves to Flordia in winter. Always had that fear of what if! And with my girls in the house. I did not sleep. Yes a long story on that part.
Call the dealer yourself. And just ask about buying a burner. He can talk the talk and I fell. My bad!
http://m.tractorsupply.com/en/store/united-states-stove-clayton-wood-coal-stove-with-draft-kit-twin-800-cfm-blowers
A heat calculator? No.
I understand what your asking. I work with a/c units. But before that gets thrown at me. I fix them not install them.
I think I used less wood with the Clayton.
Issues was we got the house to 74 then needed to stock wood. After stocking the house was 64 or less and was a cycle like that.
I live where there is no choice in heating. Wood or electric.
My parents house burnt due to a fire and has bothered me since. I was the one taking care of it. They ship themselves to Flordia in winter. Always had that fear of what if! And with my girls in the house. I did not sleep. Yes a long story on that part.
Call the dealer yourself. And just ask about buying a burner. He can talk the talk and I fell. My bad!
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 11:07:19 PM »
Thank you. You just proved my passion on why has it not been taken care of. Yes the dealer has dropped the ball. But also has profab. If you was the company would you not want to get this resolved ASAP? I would! I work in a industry that its main focus is" hospitality" we make customers first. Even If there wrong. Just to promote more business.
Yes did I not find your site. Do I bust my ass to provide for my family? YOU BEST PUT YOUR LIFE ON THAT!
Am I a OWB pro? He'll no. Did I get shafted? He'll yes!
But who started calling "dick?" Yep Scott!
Am I wrong hell yes. BUT AT LEAST I WILL SAY IT!
I
No ones perfict but at least make the attemp to do wright!
Yes did I not find your site. Do I bust my ass to provide for my family? YOU BEST PUT YOUR LIFE ON THAT!
Am I a OWB pro? He'll no. Did I get shafted? He'll yes!
But who started calling "dick?" Yep Scott!
Am I wrong hell yes. BUT AT LEAST I WILL SAY IT!
I
No ones perfict but at least make the attemp to do wright!
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 10:32:15 PM »
I know how views work! 2 your all still posting. 3. I came here looking for advise to help me find what went posting. 4 start from the beginning.
I love the jumper on's.
have I rattled your chains?
I came on here to get advise on the reasons and what or who I could contact to get heat in my house without spending $700 in electric bills. So for those who can't read or want to read between the lines have fun with the bashing. I am!
Friday night fun!! Whoop whoop.
I love the jumper on's.
have I rattled your chains?
I came on here to get advise on the reasons and what or who I could contact to get heat in my house without spending $700 in electric bills. So for those who can't read or want to read between the lines have fun with the bashing. I am!
Friday night fun!! Whoop whoop.
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 10:04:39 PM »
O I am sorry the help was AFTER the unit killed over! And I once again thank you for your input of the reasons it went wrong. Just makes my point even stronger.
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 10:01:12 PM »
And was told by the central boiler dealer this unit was to small for me!
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 09:55:07 PM »
Also for the one who asked. The boiler water runs from the boiler into my house it is T'd and splits. One to a plate heat exchanger. Others goes over to the heat exchanger in the forced air. So boiler water is in boiler and heat exchsnger. House hot water runs throughout plate exchanger to tank back to plate
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Empyre / Re: ProFab has some issues!
« on: April 11, 2014, 09:49:29 PM »
628 and rising. For those jumping in. All I stated was facts. Do I know boiler systems No! Did I research. Yes the best I could on what little free time I have working 12/15 days. Was I being a ass? No! But all I heard was "You over loaded it!""You have to little load!""You need to pull more heat!" At what stage did someone say "hay. I can help! Here is what you need to do!"
Yep. Crickets!!!
But this is starting to be Fun.
Yep. Crickets!!!
But this is starting to be Fun.