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Central Boiler / Re: Can't get her going this year (E-Classic 2400)
« on: November 21, 2018, 06:34:37 AM »
Well, I got home from work yesterday and found that the boiler burnt down to coals even though I shut the power off and left the bypass open. I ohmmed out the solenoids and they all read between 22-24 ohms which is within the spec of 15-30 ohms that CB claims they should be. I turned the power back on and loaded the boiler back up. It appeared to run well all night and this morning we had a bed of coals again and the water temp was 180. I loaded it up and headed off to work. Fingers crossed....

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Central Boiler / Re: Can't get her going this year (E-Classic 2400)
« on: November 20, 2018, 11:41:14 AM »
Yes, I pulled both elbows when I cleaned it. I have visibly confirmed that the upper air supply elbow solenoid is working. I have also verified that the small tube on the lower air supply elbow opens, but I have not seen the large tube solenoid open; at what point should that open?

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Central Boiler / Can't get her going this year (E-Classic 2400)
« on: November 20, 2018, 08:34:39 AM »
Yet another struggle with my OWB. I did a complete cleaning a month ago and due to other projects etc. I wasn't able to start it for the season until now.

First thing I noticed was that the blower wasn't working. Fortunately, I had a spare so I was able to replace that.

I have good, seasoned wood, but it was wet since it had rained most of the day. I dug through the stack to get some drier pieces from the middle. I used a lot of bone-dry kindling and paper. Lit the fire and it seemed to start. I ran it with the by-pass open for quite a while and closed it when it got to 450 or so. Then it proceeded to choke itself out.

I stirred up the coals and repositioned the wood. It seemed like it may have bridged. Ran it with the bypass open again until it got to mid-400's, shut the bypass and it again choked itself out over the course of an hour at best.

I know the wood was wet-ish, but by the second time I tried the wood was good and dried. Fuel, air and ignition source is all that fire needs. I think my air may be the issue? When the door is open for loading, the small tube on the lower air supply elbow is open and I can see/feel/hear air coming out of the air charge tube.

When the door is closed, the upper air supply elbow is open. When is the larger tube on the lower air supply elbow supposed to open?

It seems to me, that until the water gets to temperature, all the tubes should be open and blowing a ton of air in there no? The water temp only reached 110 degrees... Any help/suggestions?

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Central Boiler / Re: E-Classic 2400 rear doors blown off!
« on: April 10, 2018, 11:16:41 AM »
Not really. There is a box(?) where the lower solenoid tube goes into the boiler. The entire bottom of this seems to be gone (rotted, blown out, I'm not sure) I drove by the place where I bought my boiler the other day even though they no longer are a CB dealer) because they have the same model as I do to heat their showroom. Unfortunately the gate was closed and I couldn't get in. I have since heard that the dealership is going bankrupt...

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Central Boiler / E-Classic 2400 rear doors blown off!
« on: March 26, 2018, 09:53:35 AM »
Saturday night it started getting cold in the house. Sunday morning I went outside and sure enough the fire was out in the boiler, BUT the wood was still in it unburned. I got it going again but then I closed the bypass lever the temp started dropping. When I opened the door, it would take off again. This has happened in the past when my intake tube has gotten packed with creosote but since I added my removable side plates inside the boiler box, I haven’t had hardly any backup but I went to check.
To my surprise, both access doors were lying on the ground, side by side, just as if they’d fallen together off the back of the boiler. This was strange… I checked the intake tube and it was clean, but the solenoid wasn’t opening the cover. Of course I don’t keep a spare solenoid, so I propped it open so it would allow air into the firebox.
I was in the middle of evaporating maple sap so I’d mess with the OWB and then check on the evaporator. Each time I’d come back, the OWB was on the verge of going out. WTH? So I ran it for a while with the bypass lever open for a while. When I came back to check it again the temp was getting there, so I closed the bypass lever. When I did, smoke started coming out from under the roof and out of the back panels, like a lot! Then, right in front of me, both rear doors blew right off of the back of the OWB!!!! Obviously it must have happened before when it went out because the panels were lying there just like I found in the morning. What would possibly cause this????
I opened the bypass and ran the OWB with the door open for 5-10 minutes while I checked back on my evaporator. I came back to the OWB, closed the door, closed the bypass, and it ran fine the rest of the day and all last night!
I don’t know who to talk to as just this Friday we received a letter in the mail saying the place we purchased our OWB from was no longer a Central Boiler dealer and to go on line to find another one.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Door gasket adhesive
« on: October 18, 2017, 12:48:23 PM »
I ordered the Portage and Main silicone super door gasket stuff for my CB. What should I use for adhesive?

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General Discussion / Re: DUH Moment
« on: September 20, 2017, 06:26:00 AM »
Reminds me of Karl in "Slingblade"

Bill Cox: [lawnmower won't start] Karl, see if you can figure out what's wrong with this. It won't crank up and everything seems to be put together right.

Karl: It ain't got no gas in it.

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Fire Wood / Re: Softwood vs hardwood
« on: September 15, 2017, 07:22:52 AM »
I thought that a lot of people in the northwest burn a lot of softwood simply because that's the only wood they can get their hands on?

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Fire Wood / Re: Wood storage
« on: September 14, 2017, 09:25:07 AM »
It's an awesome system. We saw it at the NY Woodsmen's Days show in Booneville NY last month.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: NH bans all non EPA owb installs
« on: September 12, 2017, 02:06:10 PM »
What I find ridiculous about all of this is that living in New England, half the people in the rural areas have wood stoves anyway! You're going to get wood smoke smell during the winter, period. Anyone who burns wood more than one season learns real fast that seasoned hardwood is what gives them the biggest bang for their buck and a by product of that is that it burns clean and less smoky. OWB's got a bad name early on because dealers used to tell potential customers that they could "burn anything" in them. Unfortunately, people burned whatever crappy green wood they could find and smoked out the neighborhoods. Then there were the guys who interpreted burning "anything" too literally and burned every scrap of trash they could stuff in there. Punish the masses for the crimes of the few. How awesome...

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Central Boiler / Re: E-2400 Air chamber cracked
« on: September 05, 2017, 11:53:59 AM »
Hmmm, I once had a manufacturer tell me that creosote would not affect cut off wheels, I sent him pictures and you guessed it, he had never seen that before! Can you burn it out with a torch?

If it tried the creosote would burn and that would not be that great to breathe in. As it was the cut-off wheels generated enough heat to get it smoking a little....

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Central Boiler / Re: E-2400 Air chamber cracked
« on: September 05, 2017, 09:27:03 AM »
Well, I got about 18" of the left air chamber panels cut out yesterday before calling it quits. The channels are packed so solid with creosote I am chiseling it our with a masonry chisel. I don't know if it's the metal or what but I ate up three 4" cut-off wheels removing what I did and those were the easy ones. What a crappy job to have to do...

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Central Boiler / Re: E-2400 Air chamber cracked
« on: August 30, 2017, 06:09:39 AM »
So I stopped by my dealer on the way home from work last night. Currently, he has no boilers in stock; they will still sell them but he said the sales were very low and to stock them no longer makes sense. Their parts department was fairly depleted as well.

The good news is he went over the problem with me and showed me a retrofit kit for a different model than mine, but the idea was similar. He also printed out the instructions for my model and based on what I saw and the directions I have, I think I can facilitate a repair myself and possibly even make it batter. Their kit comes with stainless steel plates but he said that they tend to warp over time as well and their cost for the kit was $120.

He did confirm that having the coal bed too high is what causes the issue I have and I admit that I am guilty of letting that happen. I was on a 24 hour fill schedule; I would have been better off to do at least 12 hour fills.

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Door gasket material
« on: August 28, 2017, 07:36:14 AM »
Call Brian at the P and M office himself and they will retail t to you, its pricey but worth every penny.
Thanks! Do you know if it'll work in my CB door? Are the grooves in the doors for the gasket materials a standard size?

Well, some of us are.
Yup, Marty is either trying to make me feel better for my lack of memory, or he's trying to justify his own!  ;D

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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Door gasket material
« on: August 25, 2017, 06:54:36 AM »
In preparing for the upcoming burning season, I need to replace my door gasket on my E-Classic 2400. This past spring in Bangor, I was talking to the Portage and Maine guy (he may have actually been the president?) and he pointed out the gasket material they use on their doors. He suggested I see if I can use that same material on my Central Boiler door instead of the fiberglass rope gasket that I currently end up replacing almost every year. Unfortunately, I can't remember the supplier who makes it for them. I wrote it down because I knew I wouldn't remember.....but....I forgot where I wrote it down.
Does anyone know? Is there something better to use?
Thanks!
Rich

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