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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Plumbing => Topic started by: AirForcePOL on December 29, 2013, 05:41:55 PM

Title: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: AirForcePOL on December 29, 2013, 05:41:55 PM
I'm trying to find some rubber hose to use on the back of my stove to avoid extra 90's.  Will this hose on the Lowe's website work?  If it will, how should I attach it to the crimp fitting properly?  Thanks!

Here is the link:  http://www.lowes.com/pd_443430-104-SHNL10_4294822036__?productId=4330526&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar (http://www.lowes.com/pd_443430-104-SHNL10_4294822036__?productId=4330526&Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar)|1&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNs%3Dp_product_qty_sales_dollar%7C1%26page%3D2&facetInfo=
Title: Re: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: jerkash on December 29, 2013, 06:00:13 PM
It probably would, but I don't think it would last that long.  My thought is do it right and do it ONE TIME
Title: Re: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: ITO on December 29, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
 I agree with avoiding temporary fixes but there are some merits to using hose like less 90's and flexibility, my boiler came with hoses that attach to the water cooled door, I have had problems with the rubber hoses not lasting and leaking but recently upgraded the hoses to commercial truck hoses:
http://www.hbdthermoid.com/images/industrial_hose/Heavy-Duty%20Hose%20and%20Marine%20Products%20(THBOS_19615).pdf (http://www.hbdthermoid.com/images/industrial_hose/Heavy-Duty%20Hose%20and%20Marine%20Products%20(THBOS_19615).pdf)
 Thought about using braided hosing like on a hot rod but flexibility is limited:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Fittings-Hoses/Part-Type/Hoses-Radiator/Radiator-Hose-Position/Upper-hose/Hose-Material/Braided-stainless-steel/ (http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Fittings-Hoses/Part-Type/Hoses-Radiator/Radiator-Hose-Position/Upper-hose/Hose-Material/Braided-stainless-steel/)
 I just did this so I can't speak for how long they will last, it's for sure more money than the rubber hoses. The clamps are not all the same either and the better ones cost more also. If flexibility is not the issue, pex is still probably the best and cheapest way to go.
Title: Re: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: AirForcePOL on December 29, 2013, 09:21:50 PM
Thanks guys.   I saw a thread on here where someone had used rubber house on their stove to make it easier to run. I just figured with it being used on radiators that it would hold up pretty good.   Flexibility is part of the problem.   I can make it work with 2 elbows but I just figured if I could cut one elbow from the line then I would.   Thanks for your input!
Title: Re: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: RSI on December 29, 2013, 11:56:45 PM
Are you trying to avoid the elbows because of head loss or to make the install easier?
If you use the larger elbows (threaded vs pex) you will get very little head loss. Heater hose is not as smooth inside as pex so you don't gain as much as you would with bending pex to avoid 90's.
Title: Re: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: AirForcePOL on December 30, 2013, 07:31:13 AM
Are you trying to avoid the elbows because of head loss or to make the install easier?
If you use the larger elbows (threaded vs pex) you will get very little head loss. Heater hose is not as smooth inside as pex so you don't gain as much as you would with bending pex to avoid 90's.

I'm trying to avoid a little bit of both.  What fittings are you talking about?  Are they the plastic ones that have the end cap that you put around the pex, put it in the fitting and then screw the cap on to tighten it?
Title: Re: Will this rubber hose work?
Post by: juddspaintballs on December 30, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
My heatmor has rubber hoses on the firebox door since there's a water jacket inside of the firebox door.  I don't see why it wouldn't work, but I agree that bending pex properly or using quality elbows is probably a better idea in your situation.