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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers with NON EPA-Certified Models Only => Home Made => Topic started by: beeman on September 24, 2011, 07:22:02 PM

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Post by: beeman on September 24, 2011, 07:22:02 PM
well draged my stove out of the barn to fill with water to cheak for leaks  :thumbup: owell found 3 :bash:

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Post by: beeman on September 24, 2011, 07:37:41 PM
as you guys said i was using air but after charging it a couple of times i would grind out were the leak was the let the air out this is ware the getting lazey or in a hurry i would just un screw the pipe that had hence had the gage and hose nipple on the last time i did this the hose was not shut all the way off the gage only said 25 i have only charged it to 5 when i un screwed it i learned  air can burn your hand it shot all the way to the roof of the barn bounced then the two pices came back down air
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Post by: beeman on September 24, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
it is 3feet by 3 feet fire box water chamber all around front and back 225 gal of water  have about 400.00 into it still have to get a pump
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Post by: RSI on September 24, 2011, 09:22:25 PM
It is looking good.
What kind of welder are you using? Only 3 leaks isn't bad. Doesn't take much for water to find it's way through.
If you are interested in a used pump I can get take outs that are usually only a couple years old.
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Post by: jackel440 on September 25, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
Looks good! Glad to see its coming along.3 leaks aint too bad! :thumbup:
Now is the point when it starts getting fast and exciting >:D
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Post by: beeman on September 25, 2011, 05:33:36 PM
i am using a stick 7018 /6011 rod  what do you mean by takeouts i was keeping an eye out for a toco 11  wille g do you have a pic of the side arm you made  has eny body seen a boiler that when you open the door there is just a grate that seperates the wood and ash  i saw this once but cant remember were still learning how to post pic but it says to much space
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Post by: RSI on September 25, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
The pumps are from indoor heating systems that have been replaced. When they put in a new system they pull out everything and put all new pumps in it. The age of them varies but a lot of the time they are fairly new.

I would have to check with the guy I get them from. I think he has a couple Groundfos pumps that are equivalent size to a 0011.
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Post by: willieG on September 25, 2011, 06:24:10 PM
i have many reports that grundfos are better pumps but how can i say that when my taco has been going over 10 years?  i have ever only had this one so i can offer no comparisons. those that have used them both may have honest opinions..i am not sure all dealers have honest opinions....many may say the one they make the most money on is the best? ;)
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Post by: RSI on September 25, 2011, 06:31:19 PM
I used a Taco 0011 in my house and it was getting really noisy randomly after a year. It may have been partially caused by a little air or something but I was never able to get it to quiet down. The impeller looked fine when I pulled it out. I used a Grundfos ever since and it was much better. I think 7 years now. They are better looking too ;D
I got a hold of a used B&G PL36 so that is going to replace the current pump this winter.
There are a lot of Tacos out there running and they do work ok.
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Post by: beeman on October 03, 2011, 08:07:31 AM
what kind of price are you looking at for the pump  i learned using old bed frams are hard to drill holes and a self taping screw is a no go but it was free so ill have to fig it out also found out that slag that burns trough your pants realy hurts baaaaaadddddd on your privets :o trying to post more pic
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Post by: Airgap on October 03, 2011, 11:12:46 AM
Looks good so far.... :thumbup: Keep the pics coming.
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Post by: Ridgekid on October 03, 2011, 11:14:58 AM
What pics? Seriously! What browser are you using?
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Post by: Airgap on October 03, 2011, 11:17:13 AM
Well, I said pics, but there's just one in this thread, and several in his other thread...I'm using explorer..
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Post by: beeman on October 05, 2011, 05:39:12 PM
well worked on her some more , finaly got the leaks done  :D  its full of water no leaks now for the out side and doors  this sumer have to redo the big door hings was in a hurry wonting to redo a piano like wille g  still working on the plentom at the same time
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Post by: beeman on October 06, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
more work
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Post by: jackel440 on October 07, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
Looks like progress!Keep her going man.Sure wont be long now. :thumbup:
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Post by: beeman on November 20, 2011, 08:18:51 AM
hoo  hoo fired her up for a test run last night got her up to 145 water temp then shut it down to check every thing out that was about 700pm at 530this morning the water was still at 95  got some more pic to post i have time i will tonight
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Post by: mikenc on November 20, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
Congrads on the build. Been watching progress. You will enjoy your stove I am sure. Sure beats paying oil/utility company.
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Post by: beeman on November 20, 2011, 08:32:18 PM
what do you  think

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Post by: beeman on November 20, 2011, 08:48:01 PM
here is another one , still working out the kinks  as i said the siding is one of the upgrades for this summer , came across some flat iron and round pipe  i can start on the piano hinge for the door lost the paper that came with the aqua state so iam having to guss any ideals it is a honey well strap on

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Post by: Scott7m on November 20, 2011, 09:28:04 PM
Congrats on your new stove!  Be sure to insulate it good when you upgrade your siding!
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Post by: Bull on November 21, 2011, 06:16:56 AM
Looking good, try here for your info http://honeywell.com/Products-Services/Pages/Consumer-Home.aspx (http://honeywell.com/Products-Services/Pages/Consumer-Home.aspx)
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Post by: beeman on November 23, 2011, 05:33:38 PM
well my stove has been running for 3 days real happy with it still working out the bugs like it seems to take to long to heat the water back up that when it dose kick in it takes it a long time just to heat the water back up can you hook an aquastat up backwards  becouse  it shuts down burn when the water gets to about 160 but the aquastat is set on 85 then wont start back up until water is below 100  thanks bull but couldnt find wiring directions at that site  by the way my aquastst is on the line coming from the bottm of the boiler to the house  might have to move it becouse it is like it is using all the hot water before making more  I do whant to thank every body on here  for support becouse today a coworker made a coment about my junkyard stove  looked  ------------- and    ======= of corse i came back   this is true but i have all my kids and dont live in my daddys basement so he is paying the heating bill. of corse i couldent stop after all the hard work and scrounging   before he could say enythig i stated is it going to be mom or dad that picks you up after work becouse of your  d w i  sorry to rant so long thanks for letting me vent every body have a safe thanks giving gary
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Post by: BoilerHouse on November 24, 2011, 03:44:40 AM
Which model aquastat do you have.  Here is a link for the installation manual for a common honeywell aquastat.
http://customer.honeywell.com/techlit/pdf/PackedLit/60-2105.pdf (http://customer.honeywell.com/techlit/pdf/PackedLit/60-2105.pdf)
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Post by: Bull on November 24, 2011, 07:09:05 AM
Beeman, you should move the aquastat up to the main body of the water.
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Post by: beeman on November 24, 2011, 12:35:16 PM
i am using a honeywell L6006c aquastat i think i will try and move it tonight  .the wiring is a red screw black screw and a wight spade type i had it wired to the black and red but think it is suposed to be the wight and red is this right thanks
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Post by: beeman on November 24, 2011, 05:45:35 PM
well more work  put the light in

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Post by: BoilerHouse on November 24, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
Here is another link you may wish to try.  It should be more helpful
http://www.doityourself.com/forum/boilers-home-heating-steam-hot-water-systems/378334-wiring-honeywell-l6006c-reverse-action-aquastat.html (http://www.doityourself.com/forum/boilers-home-heating-steam-hot-water-systems/378334-wiring-honeywell-l6006c-reverse-action-aquastat.html)
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Post by: beeman on November 26, 2011, 06:32:36 AM
try another

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Post by: beeman on December 04, 2011, 08:05:32 AM
i was just reading in lugnut,s post about smoke stack cloging up the qustion i have is my fires are getting hot enough that the flam can bee seen comming out of the smokestack i did extend the stack to about 10feet  is this normal and second has eny body used a spark arester for the top i though about making one eny input
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Post by: Scott7m on December 04, 2011, 08:08:34 AM
Bee man, i know a lot of folks will tell you that you can't run a spark arrestor.  I for one ran one all last season and had no problems, a good chimney fire every couple weeks kept it clean as a whistle.   But yes, fire out the top of a design like that is common
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Post by: beeman on December 04, 2011, 09:28:16 AM
think i might have found some of the problem  shaver[ that i based my stove from] there fan is 75cfm mine is 145cfm on the spark arester do you think 1/4 inch is to small
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Post by: Scott7m on December 04, 2011, 09:44:30 AM
Probably, mine had oblong holes probably 1/2"

Make you a slider on your fan that blocks off part of the hole where the air comes in the fan.   

If you go to the earth wood furnace site you'll see what I'm talkin bout
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Post by: beeman on December 04, 2011, 10:07:45 AM
thank that would be much easer than reastat on fan
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Post by: Scott7m on December 04, 2011, 11:08:33 AM
Oh yea.  It's really simple and works well, go for it
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Post by: beeman on December 05, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
well testing going well weather girl said with wind chill its down to 17  house is still warm at 75 only one duct going into livingroom  hoping to add more rooms soon  think i will do our room last the wife cudles closer when its cooler  ;D  was going to get more done this last weekend  but whent and got a load of wood then helped the fatherinlaw skid logs until my trackor broke worked on it tonight man your fingers get cold when you leave your gloves at the truck >:D
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Post by: jackel440 on December 07, 2011, 01:25:20 PM
well my stove has been running for 3 days real happy with it still working out the bugs like it seems to take to long to heat the water back up that when it dose kick in it takes it a long time just to heat the water back up can you hook an aquastat up backwards  becouse  it shuts down burn when the water gets to about 160 but the aquastat is set on 85 then wont start back up until water is below 100  thanks bull but couldnt find wiring directions at that site  by the way my aquastst is on the line coming from the bottm of the boiler to the house  might have to move it becouse it is like it is using all the hot water before making more  I do whant to thank every body on here  for support becouse today a coworker made a coment about my junkyard stove  looked  ------------- and    ======= of corse i came back   this is true but i have all my kids and dont live in my daddys basement so he is paying the heating bill. of corse i couldent stop after all the hard work and scrounging   before he could say enythig i stated is it going to be mom or dad that picks you up after work becouse of your  d w i  sorry to rant so long thanks for letting me vent every body have a safe thanks giving gary

I have been away for awhile,and I wanted to say glad to see you got her going!Looks real good also.
Definatly takes awhile to heat the water up when the temp gets that low.I have had mine get cold a few times lately.With working alot of hours it can be hard to keep it up sometimes.
It's a shame the idiot a work doesn't have a clue about what you have accomplished.I would be proud of it .you built it and its taking care of your heating needs.I see it like this.Hes not eating my food or living in my house so he could kiss it!
great job and now go stoke the fires! :thumbup:
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Post by: Bull on December 07, 2011, 06:57:27 PM
Welcome back Jackel, I had noticed you had not been around for a few days.
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Post by: jackel440 on December 07, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
Y ea I have been working some crazy hours and then last week we got hit with this really bad wet snow that broke poles and wires all over the surrounding counties.Was out of power for 3 days.Then boy scouts with my son and trying to home school both kids.
sure have some catching up to do around here.
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Post by: beeman on December 10, 2011, 05:41:08 PM
up date 8:30 at night whent out to fill the stove for the night 13 degree out man how can people in town not see all the stars the smell of walnut buring what a way to undwind befor going to bed  oh and ajusted the flaper on the blower hardly no sparks and dont eat so much wood   and added one more duct
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Post by: beeman on January 01, 2012, 08:27:35 PM
what would be an easy way for tstat to run fan blower  i just got a white rodgers 1f78 24v tstat have a 24v transformer  the blower fan is 120v a pic of wiring would be great
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Post by: RSI on January 01, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
what would be an easy way for tstat to run fan blower  i just got a white rodgers 1f78 24v tstat have a 24v transformer  the blower fan is 120v a pic of wiring would be great
Furnace blower? You will need a relay.
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Post by: beeman on January 02, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
could you draw a pic on how to wire thanks gary
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Post by: RSI on January 03, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
Is this just a blower by itself or in a furnace? Do you already have a relay and transformer?
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Post by: beeman on January 04, 2012, 04:54:51 PM
just a blower got a 24v transformer and wall tstat not shure what relay to get  testing on stove has been going good  learned something new the switch that turns the fan on/off turn it back on after loading the stove daa blond moment
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Post by: RSI on January 04, 2012, 05:25:44 PM
Pretty much any relay with a 24v ac coil and contacts rated at least 120v will work. I have a big drawer of relays at the office and will see if there are any 24vac in it. If there are you can have one for the postage cost if you want it.
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Post by: beeman on January 05, 2012, 07:03:55 PM
let me know how much  gary winfield 220 county road 320 fayette mo 65248  660-848-2557
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Post by: RSI on January 05, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
I forgot to look today. Will try to remember tomorrow. I know there are a lot of 24v dc relays in there but not sure about AC.
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Post by: beeman on January 09, 2012, 04:38:08 PM
RSI did you send a relay becouse i recieved what i am guessing is one  from wi. it looks like it would plug in not shure let me know gary
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Post by: RSI on January 09, 2012, 06:30:34 PM
Yes, I did. You should be able to use push on connectors or solder wires to it.
It was a 3pdt relay so there are 6 connections for contacts but you only need to use 2 of them.

For the thermostat side, connect 120v to the primary of the transformer. Then run one of the secondary wires to the R terminal on the thermostat and the other to one of the coil connections on the relay. Then run a wire from the W on the thermostat to the other side of the relay coil.
If your using a digital thermostat that doesn't use batteries then you need to run a wire from the transformer to the thermostat.

Then for the wiring on the blower, wire the neutral and ground direct. Run the hot to the common of one of the poles and the wire to the fan to the normally open contact. Just look through the side of the relay to see where they are. If you hook up the thermostat you can turn it on and off and see the contacts moving.

I hope this made sense. If not let me know and I will try again.  ;D
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Post by: beeman on January 09, 2012, 06:49:44 PM
ok the pins are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,then a,b what is 120v and what is 24v and how much do i owe you thanks for help gary
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Post by: RSI on January 09, 2012, 07:00:01 PM
A and B are the coil connections. That is the 24v part. The 120v goes through one of the contacts. I will have to look at one tomorrow if you need to know what the numbers are. You should be able to just look through the side though.

Do you see the arm with the contacts on it? There is a wire going from the bottom of that to one of the terminals. That is the common. The contact that is isn't touching is the other connection that you need to use. There are 3 sets of them but you will only be using one of them. (unless you want to run the neutral through it too but not usually done)

I think it cost about $2 for postage.
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Post by: RSI on January 12, 2012, 09:13:29 PM
Did you get it working? If not, and you still haven't figured it out let me know.
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Post by: beeman on January 29, 2012, 08:10:24 AM
RSI have not got a chance to try it yet i burgered up my shoulder doing the cat move on the roof had core training then getting wood so have been worn out at night thats why i have not been around latly