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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Central Boiler => Topic started by: aries9245 on December 17, 2014, 03:22:20 AM

Title: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 17, 2014, 03:22:20 AM
So the heading speaks for itself I year ago I was steered in the wrong direction for what lets for the second time in 8 yrs. so after being feed up with all B.S these wanna be boiler manufactures should all be ashamed of themselves misleading consumers to buy there products just for a buck. I frickin bust my ASS to make living and they take it anyway I needed to vent.. >:( ok yesterday I did the swap and installed my new cl6408 was very impressed in my self drained and disconnected the old furnace slapped the new one in and it only took me 2hrs by 6pm I had her burning up to temp 185 so as usual I get up 4am to ck her out and BAMM she's still has plenty of wood holy crap I'm so frickin happy right now you guys don't even know...after 8 yrs of having to fill my old ones every 4-6hrs.. Tried to post a pic but NG
 
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: slimjim on December 17, 2014, 03:26:50 AM
So, I have to ask, What did you replace with your Central?
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 17, 2014, 03:39:17 AM
Slim it was the ACME 235 the same as the shaver ... There is no comparison in quality and operating condition in my eyes.. Also I  call P.M left a message a few weeks ago for dealer info in my area and nobody ever called me back just wanted you to know I was considering P.M also
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: slimjim on December 17, 2014, 03:48:16 AM
I've never dealt with them, I think when the new rules come in, a lot of the smaller / cheaper brands will disappear, my fear is that so will their warranties, Sorry that Rory did not get back to you from our office, he has been very busy this year, I tried to call him yesterday and he never called me back so you aren't alone. I think you will be very happy with your Central, the 6048 is a good work horse, did you get the add on blower?
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 17, 2014, 04:09:34 AM
Thanks Slim I did not get the add on blower and funny I noticed that they were natural raft last night.. What do you think is it worth getting the blower setup
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: slimjim on December 17, 2014, 04:14:53 AM
Some guys like them for a quicker / hotter fire and some say it is not necessary, Personal opinion I guess!
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 17, 2014, 04:22:52 AM
I guess I'll just see how she burns and keeps up on the colder days Thanks ..
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: ST98 on December 17, 2014, 02:23:56 PM
I have the blower for the 6048 but never installed it. I need to have it on hand in case DEP stops by. I've only burnt last year and this year and it seems to recover pretty quick without it.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: woodman on December 17, 2014, 08:44:04 PM
So the heading speaks for itself I year ago I was steered in the wrong direction for what lets for the second time in 8 yrs. so after being feed up with all B.S these wanna be boiler manufactures should all be ashamed of themselves misleading consumers to buy there products just for a buck. I frickin bust my ASS to make living and they take it anyway I needed to vent.. >:( ok yesterday I did the swap and installed my new cl6408 was very impressed in my self drained and disconnected the old furnace slapped the new one in and it only took me 2hrs by 6pm I had her burning up to temp 185 so as usual I get up 4am to ck her out and BAMM she's still has plenty of wood holy crap I'm so frickin happy right now you guys don't even know...after 8 yrs of having to fill my old ones every 4-6hrs.. Tried to post a pic but NG

Congrats on the new boiler! Sounds like you have not had much fun getting to this point so hopefully this one will make up for some frustrations. As the season progresses it will be interesting to hear your comparisons between the acme to the cb. Keep smiling and keep us updated!
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: Scratch on December 17, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
Ive had the 6048 for about 5-6 years now and see no need for the blower.  Just my opinion...
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: fryedaddy on December 18, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
Congratulations!!

Sorry you've been through so many issues.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 19, 2014, 05:29:26 AM
Thanks guys I will keep u posted .. Only one problem I'm getting bored not having to fill the furnace every 5 hrs I feel like a lost dog lol... My wife was laughing last night she said I could tell you don't know what to do with your time ha ha ... :thumbup:
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on December 20, 2014, 09:56:39 AM
So you are putting the same amount of wood in the new boiler as you were with the old boiler and doubling your burn times? :o
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: woodywoodchucker on December 20, 2014, 11:19:38 AM
I got a blower on mine. Drilled 5 1"holes in the bottom and put a switch in line so I can shut it off. its off most of the time. if im late getting home and the temp is down i use the fan to restart or crapy wet wood that is hard to burn. Works great.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 20, 2014, 02:46:43 PM
Honda racer it seems like I'm using less wood with the central being that the blower was running constantly it would consume it faster so I would say 2/3 of what I was using being that the box is larger but I'm not filling it up only half way and larger pieces thrown in...

Woody that's a great idea good to know if I run into a problem thanks
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on December 20, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
How many pieces are you able to put it at one time compared with your old stove?
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 21, 2014, 03:09:25 AM
In the central I'm mixing the pieces 4"x24 split (my splitter can only split 24" max) and lengths that are around 8-10"x 35"  so let's say 12-14 pieces split and 2 lengths goes just about under half way.. If that makes any sense. And the old furnace I could use split pieces if I ever put lengths it wouldn't burn them unless they were under 6" thick so everything needed to be split I would get around 10 pieces to fill it but the kicker is if I'm going to fill every 4-6 hrs with 10-12 pieces im filling 4-5xs aday .. No comparison between the two
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on December 21, 2014, 06:37:49 AM
Interesting, and the acme had a under fire air source correct, ant the CB doesn't. Before you couldn't burn anything bigger then six inches because you had no coal bed established below the logs? With the CB you don't risk losing the coal bed because of the fact that it does not have an under fire air source. Did you ever try building up a 3-4 inch coal bed under the fire on the acme? You would have very easily burned 12+ inch logs without an issue if you had the coals and the under fire air source.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 21, 2014, 09:57:21 AM
I might hv worked but being that it wouldn't get me enough burn time most of time I would refill the furnace it was already burnt out so whatever coals were on the bottom were eventually turn to ash so the most coal I would ever get was from the sides of the grate were it didn't get hit by the blower and drop into the ash pan.. Now with the central I'm always having plenty of coal to move around so as soon as I put them on the coal it almost instantly starts to burns .. I was always worried about having small pieces to get the fire going again on the ACME but not now that fear is gone and hv piece of mind I didn't rialize how much stress it was putting on me I don't about everybody else's wives but sure sure he'll know mine won't go out there to keep her burning..
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: woodywoodchucker on December 21, 2014, 01:50:28 PM
In the central I'm mixing the pieces 4"x24 split (my splitter can only split 24" max) and lengths that are around 8-10"x 35"  so let's say 12-14 pieces split and 2 lengths goes just about under half way.. If that makes any sense. And the old furnace I could use split pieces if I ever put lengths it wouldn't burn them unless they were under 6" thick so everything needed to be split I would get around 10 pieces to fill it but the kicker is if I'm going to fill every 4-6 hrs with 10-12 pieces im filling 4-5xs aday .. No comparison between the two
I see you leave your rounds quite long. I ve found that keeping the log lenth less than the distance from door to the plentum at the back works best. Otherwise the fire is directed up and out the stack. My dealer told me this and I cut mine 18" to 22".I did do the 36" stuff when I first started and it shorter wood works better.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 22, 2014, 05:09:43 AM
Woody I'm kinda experimenting myself with the lengths to get the most out of it.. So your saying that at 22" in length would be the best length wise on the logs .. I'm keeping everything about 6-8" from the door opening .. I figured keeping them at that length would be ok since the firebox is 60" deep it would still keep them far enough from the chiminey..
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: woodywoodchucker on December 22, 2014, 06:54:53 AM
at 20 " im about 6" back from the plenum.The flame hits the front side of the plenum insted out behind it and out the stack.Mine is a 5036. yours will handle more.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 23, 2014, 05:04:05 AM
How old is your central woody?
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: woodywoodchucker on December 23, 2014, 07:03:26 AM
getting a little personal arent ya? Ive had woody sence 09. never a glitch.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on December 23, 2014, 01:51:59 PM
Lol ur killing me ;D
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: MTJAG on January 03, 2015, 06:41:30 PM
I guess I'll just see how she burns and keeps up on the colder days Thanks ..

I have a 5036 and as long as you keep your chimney cleaned out, it will draft fine.  I heat my house (2100 sqft and a 16' greenhouse) in sub zero temps here at 8600' elevation.  Good units.
Title: Re: Out with the lamb in with BEAST!
Post by: aries9245 on January 04, 2015, 02:42:10 AM
My I have to agree great units ..