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[kybaseball]

That  is one of the reason's i purchased an E model to force air to the back but had to take that away.

[Scott7m]

How did u take it away?

[Sluggo]

Same here kybaseball,my so e series is no different now than my original 10,000.  They came and blocked the upper blower on mine.  And the boys at Heatmaster can't figure out why I'm mad.  Plain and simple...I got rid of a perfectly good mf10,000 and got a 10,000e for 2 or 3 grand to boot.  The way I see it is I just paid $3000 for a nothing.  Maybe we got missed in some recall or something?

[Scott7m]

There was a kit that went out to fix that I was told.

But the main advantage of the e series is the extra pass in the top, not as much the over air fire, altho the over fire air does help the extra pass is where most of the improvement comes from

[kybaseball]

I know the extra bypass is great but I have noticed that not having the air over the fire is what I miss the most. It takes longer for the fire to get hot and shut the draft back off. I am getting the 12 hour burn times with the temps being cold but having to put more wood in to get the 12 hour burn time. I have a couple times have had to baby the stove to get the temp back up cause of the fire taking to long to get hot again. Never had that problem when I had the top draft. I think Heatmaster needs to fix it where I can use the top draft cause it helps a lot.

[Scott7m]

They did I thought

I thought dave came and put the new kit on yours???

The top draft can hide bottom draft problems thats for sure

[kybaseball]

Dave had no clue to what Heatmaster wanted to do. He couldn't make his mind up if he wanted to do it or not. They need to make a kit to use the top draft. If they can make the bypass then they can make a kit to hook up the top draft without putting something inside the stove.

[Sluggo]

I've been going back and forth with Heatmaster for two years and can not get any kind of answer from them.  Scott,do the new e series have a different/better setup.  If I spring for the 20,000e this summer I would like to know that they got their $@$@ together.

[Scott7m]

Ive not had any problems with them.   But was told they made a kit to reintroduce the top draft. 

As far as the 10e and 20e, I think there 2 of the best units going.  Im not having any problems and my customers are thrilled.

andyjs purchased a 10e from me, he was using another brand stove and he took my advice on line, pumps, and stove and hes using 50-75% less wood than previously

there are no perfect stoves or products anywhere, top draft or not, the e series is harddd to beat

[yoderheating]

 Heat Master does have the kit to replace the top draft. Get your dealer to come put it on. Don't blame Heat Master, they will send one out if the dealer asks for it. I've got one on the way right now.

[CountryBoyJohn]

I assume this top draft kit is only for E models that had the top draft originally?  I believe I have a later model that does not have this opening.  Am I right? 

[Sluggo]

You are correct,the standard models would not be compatible with it.

[kybaseball]

How does it work Youder?

[CountryBoyJohn]

You are correct,the standard models would not be compatible with it.

Mr. Sluggo, I do have an E model, but it was one that was manufactured after they saw the problems with the upper opening.  My stove is an E, but doesn't have an opening for air above the fire.  I think when the found the problem, they just did away with the upper opening alltogether.  Therefore, I don't believe this retrofit will work on mine, even though it is an E model. 

[Scott7m]

Kybaseball, I knew they made the kit. 

I thought dave had put yours on, call him and tell him you need it installed.  Heatmaster will send it to him just likr Yoder said.