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[hondaracer2oo4]

I understand. Well see what we can work out!

[coolidge]

Couple more weeks. Hopefully.

[slimjim]

Soon after fryburg then?

[Gunpowder]

This site is easy to moderate actually, I also take care of a farming/forage site, you can’t imagine how ugly it can get there come towards the end of winter when all the farmers are getting cabin fever. Silly little pissing matches over JD vs IH vs NH are common just for starters.
T /gkick

Marty,

Is this the JD vs IH vs NH thread 

Well I would have to think long and hard about buying a Case/IH 75C. This is my 3rd year leasing and all had issues. Granted, my lease costs me a dollar for 120 hrs on a nonprofit program and I am extremely grateful but I, as well as the local dealer service manger are getting pretty frustrated with the quality control. Parts are in. My dealers field truck is coming any minute.

BTW, as some may not know the Case/IH and Ford/New Holland tractor is made in the same factory. They have had quality control issues before according to the dealer. I feel for any unlucky farmer who buys them so I am doing my part to discover the issues within the first 120 hrs   At least that is what I keep telling myself 

[slimjim]

Hmmmm, I think I like that comment gunpowder, Thanks!

[mlappin]

Case of bad judgement.

I do like International trucks though.

Only JD’s we have are industrial yellow.

[Gunpowder]

Dealer showed up. They have to take the tractor back to the shop and remove the radiator to install the belt 

[mlappin]

Dealer showed up. They have to take the tractor back to the shop and remove the radiator to install the belt 

Huh?

Thats some ass backwards engineering there.

Previous owner tacked the splined drive shaft on our forklift to the hydraulic pump shaft. You have to disassemble the steering axle mount to change a belt now, we installed some of that segmented belt instead.

[slimjim]

Sometimes within a company the R and D guys find an easier, cheaper, better way for themselves in the factory but fail to understand that things happen in the field, it happens to every company, the difference happens in that companies response! Been there, had that pleasure before!

[mlappin]

Like some of the cars awhile back that you had to tilt the engine to change the rear bank of spark plugs.

The wife’s Liberty hasn’t been bad to work on though, I did pay the garage awhile back to change both valve cover gaskets and a power steering line. The power steering line went up by the headlight, then back along the inner fender, under the battery, under the fuse box, under something else, then back to the power steering pump. Only the trail rated Liberties had that, was considered power steering cooling.

[Gunpowder]

Like some of the cars awhile back that you had to tilt the engine to change the rear bank of spark plugs.

The wife’s Liberty hasn’t been bad to work on though, I did pay the garage awhile back to change both valve cover gaskets and a power steering line. The power steering line went up by the headlight, then back along the inner fender, under the battery, under the fuse box, under something else, then back to the power steering pump. Only the trail rated Liberties had that, was considered power steering cooling.

Wait till u replace the starter. While some claim u have to remove the front driveshaft, I was able to remove it without as some claimed. After an hour wiggling, I had my son try. No good. Then he twisted it and it literately fell to the floor. The challenge is installing the three bolts on the starter heat plate once it is in position. Was able to get 2.

[mlappin]

Like some of the cars awhile back that you had to tilt the engine to change the rear bank of spark plugs.

The wife’s Liberty hasn’t been bad to work on though, I did pay the garage awhile back to change both valve cover gaskets and a power steering line. The power steering line went up by the headlight, then back along the inner fender, under the battery, under the fuse box, under something else, then back to the power steering pump. Only the trail rated Liberties had that, was considered power steering cooling.

Wait till u replace the starter. While some claim u have to remove the front driveshaft, I was able to remove it without as some claimed. After an hour wiggling, I had my son try. No good. Then he twisted it and it literately fell to the floor. The challenge is installing the three bolts on the starter heat plate once it is in position. Was able to get 2.

160,000 miles, original starter yet. Might be another job for the garage if it goes out when I’m busy

[Roger2561]

I have been a believer that the engineers who design these things need to spend time working with the service technicians in the repair shop to experience first hand how their designs can be a royal pain in the backside to fix.

Ex. My brother has JD lawn mower.  The main drive belt was frayed and needed to be changed.  The JD belt costs $25.00.  In order to change the belt you have remove the seat, hydrostatic foot controls, floor board and cowl, disconnect the fuel line from the gas tank, remove the gas tank, disassemble the rear steering linkage (this mower is all wheel steering) and remove the cooling fan on top of the transmission.  Once that's done, you need to get it in the air to release the tension on the tensioner pulley.  Only then can you fight to remove old belt and replace it with the new.  Then you get to experience the joys of reassembly.  This job should only take 1 hour, tops, but takes at least 2 and 1/2 to 3 hours from start to finish.  Thankfully I have the tools and time to do the job myself.  I feel for the people who do not have the time or mechanical aptitude to do it themselves.   Roger 

[slimjim]

I keep telling you about them green tractors Roger

[Roger2561]

I keep telling you about them green tractors Roger

My 40hp green tractor runs beautifully, it's their smaller units that give people headaches.