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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => HeatMaster => Topic started by: tinfoilhat2020 on March 29, 2018, 02:48:00 PM

Title: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on March 29, 2018, 02:48:00 PM
how did the reps meeting go? anything new coming down the pike that you guys can give us info on????
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: mlappin on March 30, 2018, 07:46:06 AM
Aint had mine yet, usually first week of June thereabouts.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: E Yoder on March 30, 2018, 07:57:14 AM
Yeah, so we had a good time, can't share any new stuff til after we meet with the local dealers. I'll definitely post when I can.  :)
If the EPA/ Congress would figure out when the next step in emmissions comes in (2020 v. 2023) we could plan better. It's hurting the advance of new clean models....
oh, well.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: userdk on April 14, 2018, 04:04:58 PM
Had our Wisconsin dealer meeting yesterday... Gotta say R&D has been busy this last year! :thumbup:
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Post by: E Yoder on April 14, 2018, 08:24:29 PM
Yeah, spent a couple days out there poking around at the factory last week. I think in general the wood/biomass industry is going in a great direction. Burning clean and simple/ user friendly aren't at odds anymore.
Contrary to what some folks have said the EPA regs haven't killed this industry. :)
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: Pointblank on April 15, 2018, 07:15:53 AM
Yeah, spent a couple days out there poking around at the factory last week. I think in general the wood/biomass industry is going in a great direction. Burning clean and simple/ user friendly aren't at odds anymore.
Contrary to what some folks have said the EPA regs haven't killed this industry. :)

I couldn't agree more. Lots of great options out there if your looking to burn wood. Only difference now is your burning a good 30-40 percent less of it, in a much more environmentaly friendly way.

A big thumbs up to the manufacturers for driving this innovation.
Looking forward at what's to come.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on April 16, 2018, 05:56:48 PM
I love R&D, that makes the difference!!!!!!
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: E Yoder on April 16, 2018, 07:12:23 PM
10 years ago wood gasification was very much a new murky thing poorly understood in North America. That has changed dramatically and now it's more about fine-tuning for the best experience. Getting all the features right, using the right components and materials in the right places, etc.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on April 16, 2018, 08:06:29 PM
I agree!!!!
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: fireboss on April 17, 2018, 08:14:38 AM
If you had access to Free wood would it be worth it to switch to a gasser ? I never had to pay for wood yet and for the most part it’s not much work getting it , I have tree guys bring me wood if they drop off soft wood it must be cut into manageable pieces  when they drop hard wood nothing bigger then my 20” saw can handle. So I asked is it worth it to switch to a gasser?
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Post by: Farmer Rob on April 17, 2018, 09:46:42 AM
I hear many saying you will burn 40-60% less wood with a gasser so my answer is Yes. After all if you have to burn less but have plenty sell the rest and pay the unit off quicker..
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Post by: E Yoder on April 17, 2018, 11:02:30 AM
I've heard a fairly consistent 30-50% wood savings switching from conventional to gasser. The efficiencies vary a bit from model to model if you look over the EPA compliance list. Anywhere from 60% up to close to 80%.
I have yet to hear of any of our customers that made the switch that would go back. And their neighbors think they quit burning wood, with no smoke billowing around.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on April 17, 2018, 05:18:58 PM
put it this way.....last year I heated 3000sqft with a 2015 Heatmor 400 conventional and I burned about 12 full cords. This year im heating 4500 sqft and will only be at about 9 cords.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: fireboss on April 17, 2018, 07:11:00 PM
I don’t know ? I can’t justify spending the money for a new gasser right now , it was a no brainer back when I switched from oil , my 6048 paid for itself the first year or two. If i had to pay for wood it might be worth it. But right now it’s not costing me anything and I can throw anything in it , i don’t have to season or stack anything I just pile it next to the burner and throw some wood in and done ✅
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Post by: Pointblank on April 18, 2018, 06:21:53 PM
I don’t know ? I can’t justify spending the money for a new gasser right now , it was a no brainer back when I switched from oil , my 6048 paid for itself the first year or two. If i had to pay for wood it might be worth it. But right now it’s not costing me anything and I can throw anything in it , i don’t have to season or stack anything I just pile it next to the burner and throw some wood in and done ✅

Ya, if your getting wood dropped at your door for free, its gonna be hard to justify spending money on a new stove.
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Post by: racnruss on April 18, 2018, 08:42:02 PM
Fireboss,

I switched from a gasser to a conventional stove as soon as I moved to the country.    A gasser was great in town because it was only option.  Now with no one to bother with smoke, my conventional stove is so much nicer.  Just put in wood, any species any size, dry if you have it, wet if you don't.

Wood savings, maybe.  But no maintenance to speak of and not picky.  If I burn any more wood than I did with a gasser, its more than made up for by the less time I spend messing with stove and splitting/curing/covering perfect wood for the gasser.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: E Yoder on April 19, 2018, 06:34:37 AM
I'm curious what other guys think but I think maintenance isn't significantly different with the newer style gassers. Dylan, others, thoughts?
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Post by: mlappin on April 19, 2018, 07:43:39 AM
I’ve not noticed any increased maintenance with my G’s over my old homemade.

Might have to clean the damper plate on my 200 once in awhile, but had to pull the cover over the solenoid/flapper assembly on my old conventional and give it a shot of WD40 every few weeks anyways. So no real change there other than its less of a hassle cleaning the damper plate than removing sheetmetal screws to get the cover off the old.

Ash removal is much easier with the G compared to shoveling them out of the old one.

I notice a significant wood savings with a G compared to my old conventional, but again it was old school conventional and nothing like a MF10,000e.
Title: Re: i know ya had a dealer reps meeting....SO WHATS THE LATEST??? :)
Post by: racnruss on April 19, 2018, 07:57:07 AM
both of my gassers were years ago too.  I haven't seen a newer one.   I'm sure they are getting better though.
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Post by: tinfoilhat2020 on April 19, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
I'm curious what other guys think but I think maintenance isn't significantly different with the newer style gassers. Dylan, others, thoughts?

This G200 is the most low maintenance stove I have ever ran by a long shot...
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Post by: RSI on April 19, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
I'm curious what other guys think but I think maintenance isn't significantly different with the newer style gassers. Dylan, others, thoughts?

This G200 is the most low maintenance stove I have ever ran by a long shot...
Same for me with the G200. I ran a GT220 for a couple years and that one was by far the highest maintenance stove I ever ran.
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Post by: fireboss on April 20, 2018, 04:56:00 PM
I don’t really have any maintenance other than shoveling out some ashes, i take some out almost every day , makes it alot easier than doing it once a week or two,  i burn pretty much all year , i heat my pool and hot water in the summer months