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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: slimjim on May 07, 2015, 04:12:01 AM
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RSI and I have been working on a bit of a project on his forum to promote our industry, I would like to invite you all to come on over, help his traffic a bit and share your thoughts, RSI could you please post the link again for those who have lost it? Folks this will be a section that like RSI and I have done, we will be working together not as competitors but instead a team to promote our industry, if you are a dealer, please take the time to promote your shows, share ideas, and HELP one another, by expanding the market, we can all share that market. If you are simply an owner or potential owner of an OWB, Please join in with your thoughts as well, we could all use some ideas / help. Post shows you are doing, pictures of your sales area, shows that should be done, whatever. Please no bashing!
OOPS I almost forgot to post the section, glad I didn't press post yet
The title of the section is help SlimJim promote the industry! See you there and enjoy!
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Seriously guys, 142 views and not one comment and it doesn't appear that many of you have checked it out either! RSI took the initiative about a year ago to start another forum when this one was going down hard from spammers, he could use some traffic on his forum as well and we thought this might get a few of you to start checking it out, if you are a dealer, it gives you a chance to promote your business and at the same time promote his forum, I realize that advertising is frowned on here and that's not exactly what we are looking for there either but a section that allows us to get the word out for FREE, I would think would be well appreciated!
For those of you who are owners or soon to be owners, it gives you an idea of where you can catch up with a show and dealer without cluttering up the rest of the forum, It also would be a great place to exchange ideas on what helps promote the entire industry which we all know could use some help with the upcoming EPA rules, oh well perhaps it's not worthwhile after all, we will let it run a while and see but if you don't take advantage of everything you can and sit back to allow others to do it for you then I guess you can only blame yourself for failure.
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Don't forget slim its slow around here this time of the year i am not on here every day ! What is the name of his site? When this site was in trouble I stayed loyal here and didn't bale out!
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I don't think anybody baled permanently but it got pretty bad last year and RSI gave us an alternate site, I have it as a favorite so I'm not sure of the title
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I'll be over there, thanks slim. I read this early the other morning and honestly thought someone would comment on it sooner so it would pop back up. I think I still have the link to the other site.
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Does anyone have the link by chance? I don't have it saved on my phone.
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On a search it comes up as outdoor boiler forum, discussion of wood and coal boilers. Thanks AFP.
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Been working, now its raining.
A link to both the site and the thread would be appreciated.
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RSI and I have been working on a bit of a project on his forum to promote our industry, I would like to invite you all to come on over, help his traffic a bit and share your thoughts, RSI could you please post the link again for those who have lost it? Folks this will be a section that like RSI and I have done, we will be working together not as competitors but instead a team to promote our industry, if you are a dealer, please take the time to promote your shows, share ideas, and HELP one another, by expanding the market, we can all share that market. If you are simply an owner or potential owner of an OWB, Please join in with your thoughts as well, we could all use some ideas / help. Post shows you are doing, pictures of your sales area, shows that should be done, whatever. Please no bashing!
OOPS I almost forgot to post the section, glad I didn't press post yet
The title of the section is help SlimJim promote the industry! See you there and enjoy!
Hey Slim, We don't agree with your claim that taking our readers to another site is somehow "Promoting the industry". If you really want to promote the industry, you should encourage people to visit this site and help it continue to grow. We as members are much stronger if we stay together. If we become fractured and disjointed, our strength diminishes. The owners of this site have also done everything that the members have requested - no advertisements in particular. They will continue to meet the needs of this industry and promote it as much as possible. Your request that everyone move over to your other site to "expand the market" so that everyone can "share in that market" is disingenuous at best - if you really wanted to expand the market, you would do it here where the market is already established and we are all already working together to grow our market together. Instead, you appear to be trying to convince everyone to go over to your site for your own profit.
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Are you serious? do you have any idea how many folks I have brought to this site, every flyer that I have handed out at my shows since the day I signed up lists this site in particular as a great informational site with no advertising, that is what is great about this site, I see I got a warning for what you claim I was trying to do, can we not belong to more than one site? RSIs site simply has a place for dealers to let folks know where they will be and what works for them, I was under the impression that this site did not appreciate that sort of thing, if you will allow it I would be happy to partake in a thread like that, I have personally attempted to start a campaign several times to raise monies to help this site expand our ability to post pictures my monies being the first donation, and it seems nobody knows how to get in touch with the owners, if I were trying to do as you say, do you honestly think I would try to raise monies to help this site, perhaps there is something here that I'm not understanding but I don't think there is a single person who belongs to RSIs site who does not belong here as well, all I'm saying is that I think the folks on here that are dealers should perhaps be given the chance to help promote their products and services in a thread designed specifically for that purpose, RSI has generously approved that section hoping to bring some folks on there and he nor I have EVER asked anyone to leave this one. If you feel it necessary to delete this entire thread then by all means go ahead and do so, I have about 500 copies of my informational sheet for the Bangor Logging Expo scheduled for next Friday and Saturday with this forum still listed as the place to go, if you would like let me know and I'll reprint them without this forum listed if it causes an issue! You know where I'm at!
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Nobody has attempted to contact the owners, except one member last December. There is nothing at the other site that cannot exist here. Slim, we appreciate you and your contributions to this site. But most people will agree that your attempt to divide us as an industry is not appropriate and does not make any sense. If you would like, please let us know what changes you would like to request to this site and we can accommodate that, but I have never seen any such request from you. United We Stand, Divided We Fall!
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Sir, there have been many attempts by Marty and sloppy snood to contact the owner, nobody seems to know who you are, would you please allow your moderators to have your contact info so that next time we get bombarded by spammers as we did last year it does not get so bad that folks start talking about leaving as happened last year, this is what prompted the other site, united we stood, nobody left! We ALL came back, as far as promoting my self interest, do you recall that when the new moderators were contacted to clean up the forum, I was asked and I declined because I did not want to be accused of conflict of interest, I do and always have supported the entire industry regardless of manufacturer.
Yes I would like to see a separate section dedicated to how dealers can promote their business by posting shows, specials, innovations etc, I'm not a fan of making this an advertising site but there are many good folks on here that help the consumer and lots of them are dealers, do those dealers not deserve the recognition of this site by allowing a separate section, not a single one of us knows everything about every boiler or install, thank God there are those dealers on here that are willing to give there time free of charge to help, on the hope that it sells boilers and installs in the future simply by being there, I thank you for allowing us to at least be honest enough to say whom we work with, without the threat of being kicked off like they do on the Forestry Forum, look it up I'm banned from there just for saying who I worked with.
I sincerely hope you understand my thoughts for this entire thread and will remove the warning that you sent me earlier as a misunderstanding, over 2 years on here without one and I certainly feel this one was not called for as I have explained earlier.
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OK Slim, thanks for your courteous reply. I like your idea of a separate section for opportunities. Let's figure out the best way to do that. Considering our appreciation to you for your great contributions to this site, we have removes the warning (at least I think I did it correctly! Let me know if not). We maintain our commitment to this site and to making it the best site for your industry - please let us know how we can meet all the needs of members without becoming shamelessly commercial.
Over the coming months, you will be seeing some rather impressive improvements to the site. Please give us your feedback!
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Will do and Thank You for your understanding! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help!
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OK glad we got that settled, Thank you OWFI now how about some comments and ideas on how you folks would like to set this up, nobody wants pop ups or scattered advertising including myself but would it make sense to have a section for everyone to be able to see who is doing what to promote the industry.
Perhaps some ideas from everyone regarding what would be acceptable on both sides, here is my take on it, I think it would be nice to post where We will be at, this gives interested parties a chance to see us at a centralized location where they can shop for what fits their needs and gives them the ability to take advantage of any show specials, on the other hand it makes for a much easier sale from our perspective because typically if a person comes to the show to see us because of our advertising, they typically come prepared to place a deposit on our products. We drop a lot of money, time and effort to do these live burn demos at these shows and it sure feels nice if enough sales are made at the show to justify what we are doing. I would appreciate any and all comments!
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Well, and I may get the ole stink eye for this, but advertising isn’t that horrible if it only pertains to OWB’s. Pexsupply, Stihl, Baileys, Husqvarna, etc wouldn’t be horrible, adds for Viagra or Cialis are nono’s.
I moderate another site that has ads, but only ones that pertain to that industry.
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Yes come on over. Very nice layout and he is open to suggestions . :post:
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This was never meant to start trouble. I also want to mention that SlimJim has no more to do with running that other forum than he does this one. I asked him if he wanted his own forum over there to post whatever he wanted and he suggested the name that is there currently there. He wasn't really sure if he wanted to do it and I talked him into giving it a try. I got the idea from some diesel truck forums I have been on that gave forums to some of the most popular people.
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Thanks RSI , I'll try to get some pics at the forestry expo this coming weekend and post them to get things rolling.
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Slim and RSI are valuable contributors to this site.
They are respected by everyone on here.
I understand the perceived threat to the forum,, but pi$$ingg these guys off, is counter-productive
And yep it is slow.
We only got a few minutes on the PC as everyone is busy.
kk.
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Slim and RSI are valuable contributors to this site.
They are respected by everyone on here.
I understand the perceived threat to the forum,, but pi$$ingg these guys off, is counter-productive
And yep it is slow.
We only got a few minutes on the PC as everyone is busy.
kk.
Amen.
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OK guys I think I got misunderstood! Please allow me to explain, the reason for the thread is much like a local stock car race night at your local dirt track, every car in the pit is competing for that checkered flag at the end of the race, if you've ever been part of this then you also understand that even though they are all competing, if one of the guys breaks down and needs parts or a tool to get up and running, his competitors are more than willing to help him get there, are they going to drive his car for him, probably not but if they can help him compete then most are more than willing to do so. This past week I had 2 guests at my home getting ready for the show here at the Forestry expo in Bangor, Me. One is my current employer Jake Friesen from HeatMaster and the other is my previous employer Brian Martin from Portage and Main, they are obviously competitors in the OWB industry, let me just say that I am very proud of the way these 2 Gentlemen pitched in together to help one another get ready for the show, I also would like to make it clear that I believe any company that is worth it's salt in this industry is watching these forums very closely, most will not ever post as they would like to maintain the innocence of the forum, both Jake and Brian have expressed this very feeling to me personally and have made it clear that they would like to help keep the forum free of ads, if it will do any good with pics, both are willing to make a small donation to us for added pic space, they both feel that the forums have already helped their companies get where they are today and are appreciative they would like to thank ALL the forum members for their input!
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OK guys I think I got misunderstood! Please allow me to explain, the reason for the thread is much like a local stock car race night at your local dirt track, every car in the pit is competing for that checkered flag at the end of the race, if you've ever been part of this then you also understand that even though they are all competing, if one of the guys breaks down and needs parts or a tool to get up and running, his competitors are more than willing to help him get there, are they going to drive his car for him, probably not but if they can help him compete then most are more than willing to do so. This past week I had 2 guests at my home getting ready for the show here at the Forestry expo in Bangor, Me. One is my current employer Jake Friesen from HeatMaster and the other is my previous employer Brian Martin from Portage and Main, they are obviously competitors in the OWB industry, let me just say that I am very proud of the way these 2 Gentlemen pitched in together to help one another get ready for the show, I also would like to make it clear that I believe any company that is worth it's salt in this industry is watching these forums very closely, most will not ever post as they would like to maintain the innocence of the forum, both Jake and Brian have expressed this very feeling to me personally and have made it clear that they would like to help keep the forum free of ads, if it will do any good with pics, both are willing to make a small donation to us for added pic space, they both feel that the forums have already helped their companies get where they are today and are appreciative they would like to thank ALL the forum members for their input!
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Been there and seen that myself either from the days I was still running hare scrambles and endures and later when the brother in law was running stock cars at the local track. Not really a win if your competitor can’t run but you could have helped him but didn’t.
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A few pics of the Bangor Forestry show, since I took the pics I'll start with my stuff and the rest will be next, the beautiful woman with another love of mine is my wife Mary Lou and Sam
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Wow it worked, Thanks! Let's try some more, next we will do this as a tribute to Roger, here's a couple of green tractors
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Thanks for sharing Richard. Those G Series furnaces are b-e-a utiful!
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Wow it worked, Thanks! Let's try some more, next we will do this as a tribute to Roger, here's a couple of green tractors
Could use that second to last one for getting logs out of the woods. Not sold on that particular cold of green though, much prefer the Clover White and Meadow Green here.
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I had the opportunity to run one of these around the parking area last year when the show was in Essex Jct Vt
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I had the opportunity to run one of these around the parking area last year when the show was in Essex Jct Vt
I try to avoid that, if I test drive something and like it, then I will have to have it sooner or later.
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Am I glad I didn't stay long, lots of nice toys there. I would be broke and divorced if I had stayed another 10 minutes.
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Oh and by the way Coolidge, just in case nobody said it before now, Thank you again for the help.
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The price tag on the one I drove around Marty was $650,000 a bit out of the wife's budget.
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The price tag on the one I drove around Marty was $650,000 a bit out of the wife's budget.
If I had that kinda spare scratch laying around I’d be investing in land, least with the proper care you can’t wear land out.
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Yea but your govt can tell you how to run the land or take it away from you, at least with the machine you would have a chance at having some fun with em
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Yah, but they could take the machine away as well.
Land usually just keeps appreciating while machinery just depreciates.
On another note, I’ve never seen anything like that used around here.
Trees are marked, dropped, topped and dragged out with a skidder.
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That type of forwarder is typically used on huge jobs and log yards to keep the wood clean and un damaged as well as not disturbing the ground as mouth as dragging the tree.
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here in Nova Scotia my brother owns a few forwarders,along with a few harvestors and such, he also just came back from the forestry show in Maine, he says that the show was really well put together, along with the heatmaster exhibit, I mentioned for him to say hello to a ole feller named Slim...
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I did speak with a few folks from Nova Scotia, Thanks Constable!
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A few more, here is Brian from P and M with the Enviro 500 wood chip boiler in operation