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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Cleaning firebox
« on: October 28, 2022, 12:30:34 PM »
Well, I tried it. It did seem to help on the really dried out stuff, but didn't do much with the corners that had build up because it was still "gooey" under the top. Where it did help was on removable blower tubes. It cleaned them up good. I doubt I'll use it again, it wasn't worth it in the end. I probably over do it cleaning the fire box out, but I figure the more I can get off now while it's still a young boiler, the less build up I'll have over time.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Cleaning firebox
« on: October 19, 2022, 09:15:54 AM »
Just curious if anyone here has ever used or thought to use a pneumatic needle gun to go after the creosote inside the fire box?? I've had my CB 760 HDX for three years now. I've cleaned the corners of the fire box and the air tube channel out by using a chisel and hammer. I don't like the idea of taking a hammer and chisel to the fire box, but I don't have a better way to clean it out.
I've been using a pneumatic needle gun to clean rust off my Chiller end bells at work when I lay them up for the winter. I had the idea of using the same needle gun to clean the creosote. I can't think of a reason why this wouldn't work. I plan on trying it this coming weekend. If it works, I'll let you guys know. Just wondering if anyone has tried this method before I run a 100' air hose and a compressor out to the boiler and find out I got my hopes up for nothing...
I've been using a pneumatic needle gun to clean rust off my Chiller end bells at work when I lay them up for the winter. I had the idea of using the same needle gun to clean the creosote. I can't think of a reason why this wouldn't work. I plan on trying it this coming weekend. If it works, I'll let you guys know. Just wondering if anyone has tried this method before I run a 100' air hose and a compressor out to the boiler and find out I got my hopes up for nothing...
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Central Boiler / Re: boiler not going into high?
« on: February 15, 2021, 10:07:42 AM »
Thanks, yes, I'm chalking it up to high moisture content.
I can't wait until next year when I have decent wood to burn. My brother has a 15 year old Classic and he throws huge chunks of oak in there he cut this summer. That thing is amazing, how little has to be done to it to keep it going. I'm getting all kinds of crap from him when he asks me how the boiler is running and I tell him I had to babysit it for 3 hours the other afternoon to keep it going. In the long run though, I know I'll burn less wood heating more sq feet than he is.
Thanks all for your input.
I can't wait until next year when I have decent wood to burn. My brother has a 15 year old Classic and he throws huge chunks of oak in there he cut this summer. That thing is amazing, how little has to be done to it to keep it going. I'm getting all kinds of crap from him when he asks me how the boiler is running and I tell him I had to babysit it for 3 hours the other afternoon to keep it going. In the long run though, I know I'll burn less wood heating more sq feet than he is.
Thanks all for your input.
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Central Boiler / Re: boiler not going into high?
« on: February 12, 2021, 07:58:17 AM »
Darn it, I'll never be able to figure out how to import a picture from my phone. 
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Central Boiler / Re: boiler not going into high?
« on: February 12, 2021, 07:57:14 AM »
I'm going to try and add a few pictures of my Dashboard graph. You'll be able to see the water temp drop. I've seen on my phone the dreaded "fire out", but it says that under the water and reaction chamber temp in the "easy re-fire / burn time" bar. I had it there, but because I didn't have it set up to text me I didn't see it until way late in the game. It wasn't listed in the alarms section of the time stamp either. I just see the purple in the graph and that indicates an Alarm. That occurred at 11:15 am.
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Central Boiler / Re: boiler not going into high?
« on: February 12, 2021, 05:42:14 AM »
Thanks bjp, after I got home and looked at it, it was probably a combination of larger chunks not properly dried and a pretty dirty reaction chamber. Your right in the fact that its not a staged fan, but the addition of air that they are calling low, medium, high. I misspoke.
Just to clarify, after I loaded it at 4:30 am, the unit went into medium (water temp 178) and ran there until 6:23 (water temp 150). So over the time of 2 hrs 50 min it was in medium and lost 28 degrees. Then it switched to low mode at 6:23 am until 11:15 am. At which point my water temp dropped from 150 to 118 degrees, and then I got alarms. So, it was in low mode for 4 hours 40 min or so. The 7 hrs I mentioned was a combination of medium and low modes.
My wonder yesterday was why it went from medium to low mode after I loaded it, and the temp was dropping. I would think if it was trying to heat, and it was loosing ground, it would try harder, not let up. I was confused by that. Conventional wisdom would tell me that if it's loosing ground in medium mode, kick it up to high. I looked threw the manual last night, and it's true that it's the reaction chamber temp that dictates how much air is introduced, when stepping up from low threw high.
From the manual: In Demand Mode with the primary air actuator open, when the combustion temperature reaches 550˚F, the secondary air actuator will start to open and the Secondary status LED will be white. The secondary air actuator will continue to open more as the combustion temperature rises.
It's my first year with a boiler of any kind. I didn't know I was going to get it until early August or so last summer. It was installed October. I didn't have much time to cut and dry wood. I burn a fireplace inside, so I had some wood. I had about 3 cord split and stacked. I had another 4 cord bucked up and in a pile waiting to be split. Once I found out I was getting the boiler, I started splitting and stacking as fast as I could. The long and the short of it is, I've been burning a combination of wood what is anywhere between 23% and 40% moisture. My Idle pulse time is set at 15 min and my minimum idle pulse duration is at 50 min because of this. Regardless, I've had it go out on my multiple times this year. I'm chalking it up to a large learning curve.
Thanks for taking the time to answer. There is so much info in this forum. I wish I had time to look threw all of it.
Bourbon
Just to clarify, after I loaded it at 4:30 am, the unit went into medium (water temp 178) and ran there until 6:23 (water temp 150). So over the time of 2 hrs 50 min it was in medium and lost 28 degrees. Then it switched to low mode at 6:23 am until 11:15 am. At which point my water temp dropped from 150 to 118 degrees, and then I got alarms. So, it was in low mode for 4 hours 40 min or so. The 7 hrs I mentioned was a combination of medium and low modes.
My wonder yesterday was why it went from medium to low mode after I loaded it, and the temp was dropping. I would think if it was trying to heat, and it was loosing ground, it would try harder, not let up. I was confused by that. Conventional wisdom would tell me that if it's loosing ground in medium mode, kick it up to high. I looked threw the manual last night, and it's true that it's the reaction chamber temp that dictates how much air is introduced, when stepping up from low threw high.
From the manual: In Demand Mode with the primary air actuator open, when the combustion temperature reaches 550˚F, the secondary air actuator will start to open and the Secondary status LED will be white. The secondary air actuator will continue to open more as the combustion temperature rises.
It's my first year with a boiler of any kind. I didn't know I was going to get it until early August or so last summer. It was installed October. I didn't have much time to cut and dry wood. I burn a fireplace inside, so I had some wood. I had about 3 cord split and stacked. I had another 4 cord bucked up and in a pile waiting to be split. Once I found out I was getting the boiler, I started splitting and stacking as fast as I could. The long and the short of it is, I've been burning a combination of wood what is anywhere between 23% and 40% moisture. My Idle pulse time is set at 15 min and my minimum idle pulse duration is at 50 min because of this. Regardless, I've had it go out on my multiple times this year. I'm chalking it up to a large learning curve.
Thanks for taking the time to answer. There is so much info in this forum. I wish I had time to look threw all of it.
Bourbon
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Central Boiler / boiler not going into high?
« on: February 11, 2021, 10:51:08 AM »
Howdy gentlemen. Question for any other 760 HDX owners out there. I loaded my boiler up this morning and left for work. had 3 or 4 pieces of wood in there from last night with a decent amount of coal bed. Just noticed that the water temp took a nose dive after I loaded it and never recovered. In looking at my FireStar log, it seems that the fan went from medium to low and never tried to ramp back up. Just sat at low for 7 hours. my wife sent me pictures of the reaction chamber and it's pretty full of ash (been lazy this last week during the cold snap). I'm wondering if this furnace can tell there is a lack of air flow and not go to high mode? I would think when the temp didn't recover after I loaded it up, eventually it would try to go to high. I caught the water temp at 119 degrees, and I have the wife out there cleaning the ashes and keeping an eye on it until I can get home. Any thoughts?
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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!
« on: November 23, 2020, 12:10:58 PM »
I certainly have. Not only is it fun to watch as you have pointed out, it's helping me figure out how my boiler runs (the burn cycles and pulses). Plus, what to predict once the weather turns colder. What a great tool to have to help figure out how to optimize these boilers. I'm sure other brands have their version of Firestar, if not now, sooner or later. It's a valuable tool to have.
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Central Boiler / Re: Installing a New CB Edge 750 HD this weekend!
« on: November 23, 2020, 05:20:15 AM »
Boilerman and Roger,
I pulled the trigger on a Edge 760 HD this fall. It's been running perfect for me for 6 weeks. It's my first wood boiler. We built my house and now shop with the intent of heating with one 8 years ago. When it's all said and done (shop build), I'll be heating 5,500 sq feet. Couldn't be happier. Unfortunately, I'm not burning the driest wood, but it's handling it fine.
I pulled the trigger on a Edge 760 HD this fall. It's been running perfect for me for 6 weeks. It's my first wood boiler. We built my house and now shop with the intent of heating with one 8 years ago. When it's all said and done (shop build), I'll be heating 5,500 sq feet. Couldn't be happier. Unfortunately, I'm not burning the driest wood, but it's handling it fine.
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General Discussion / Re: Black Ants
« on: April 10, 2017, 05:14:41 AM »If I had a stove at the moment, I would toss them in. As of right now, I'm just building up my wood supply for when I'm able to get one. I thought it was going to be this spring, but things came up. So, next year hopefully. Until then, I'm cutting and splitting and stacking and learning. I guess I'll just continue to toss ant infested rounds off to the side. I should have known that I'm probably one of the few people associated with this site that don't own a OWB yet. In hind sight, you guys wouldn't share in my ant dilemma now would you....Sorry, I was kinda rude.
I dumped a mix of borax and sugar around the house and it killed ants pretty good. Never worried about it in my firewood but I'm not taking it inside.
No worries E Yonder - It was funny.
As of right know, I do burn wood in the house (large fireplace) during the winter, so I'm constantly bring wood inside. I get mosquitos flying around my house Dec - Feb which is weird for people who come over and a mosquito goes flying buy. They seem to not bother us at all though. Never been bit by one. They just fly around looking drunk wondering "why the hell am I awake so soon?!?"
I have a dog that runs free in the yard, so I don't like the baiting them with sugar poison idea. I'll get me a can of Raid and go that route. Thanks guys. Simple solution for a simple problem. Sometimes it just takes another set of eyes and brain to come up with it.
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General Discussion / Re: Black Ants
« on: April 05, 2017, 11:27:09 PM »
If I had a stove at the moment, I would toss them in. As of right now, I'm just building up my wood supply for when I'm able to get one. I thought it was going to be this spring, but things came up. So, next year hopefully. Until then, I'm cutting and splitting and stacking and learning. I guess I'll just continue to toss ant infested rounds off to the side. I should have known that I'm probably one of the few people associated with this site that don't own a OWB yet. In hind sight, you guys wouldn't share in my ant dilemma now would you.... 
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General Discussion / Re: Tires
« on: April 05, 2017, 04:50:14 AM »
Cooper Discoverer AT3 here as well.
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General Discussion / Black Ants
« on: April 05, 2017, 04:45:46 AM »
What do you guys do when you split a round open and it's full of dormant black ants?? I usually toss it off to the side for fear those buggers will infect the rest of my wood pile. Is this warranted? Or are they so weak from hibernation to find a new home and just die off?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Ooooops
« on: March 16, 2017, 11:21:37 AM »
Is it just me, or does anyone else want to know what brand it was?
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