OK guys I think I got misunderstood! Please allow me to explain, the reason for the thread is much like a local stock car race night at your local dirt track, every car in the pit is competing for that checkered flag at the end of the race, if you've ever been part of this then you also understand that even though they are all competing, if one of the guys breaks down and needs parts or a tool to get up and running, his competitors are more than willing to help him get there, are they going to drive his car for him, probably not but if they can help him compete then most are more than willing to do so. This past week I had 2 guests at my home getting ready for the show here at the Forestry expo in Bangor, Me. One is my current employer Jake Friesen from HeatMaster and the other is my previous employer Brian Martin from Portage and Main, they are obviously competitors in the OWB industry, let me just say that I am very proud of the way these 2 Gentlemen pitched in together to help one another get ready for the show, I also would like to make it clear that I believe any company that is worth it's salt in this industry is watching these forums very closely, most will not ever post as they would like to maintain the innocence of the forum, both Jake and Brian have expressed this very feeling to me personally and have made it clear that they would like to help keep the forum free of ads, if it will do any good with pics, both are willing to make a small donation to us for added pic space, they both feel that the forums have already helped their companies get where they are today and are appreciative they would like to thank ALL the forum members for their input!