Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: coolidge on January 18, 2018, 03:21:13 PM
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Total ripoff
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Holy crap.
I was doing an install on a Saturday right before Christmas and they ran out of LP. By time they had the emergency fee, the partial fill fee and what not it was over $500 for a 100 gallons.
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I need to find my own tank, but all the companies around won't sell one,
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I need to find my own tank, but all the companies around won't sell one,
Watch Craigslist and the Facebook marketplace.
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Ouch
I know prices vary by region and delivery infrastructure, but wow....
Greedy S.O.B's
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I see propane and fuel oil trucks on the road a lot right now. A lot of interest at the Farm Show this week. Folks are getting whacked with some big bills.
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Total ripoff
how many pound tank wasthat anyway
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120 and that I probably part of the reason, but my neighbor has his own tank, he just paid $1.99 for 100 gallons.
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OWIE! I had the tank filled a one of my rentals about a month ago for $1.09. Granted it was 350 gallons, but it's also a rented tank. In my neck of the woods it actually costs more to have an owned tank filled than a rented one. Rent is $11/yr and includes lifetime service on the regulator and buried line. Can't own one for that
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Believe it or not Harbor Freight sells them. That's scary!
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Believe it or not Harbor Freight sells them. That's scary!
Propane tanks?! I'm looking at their site here and all the tanks I can find are for compressed air
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Yeah I have never heard of harbor freight selling propane tanks??? :o
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Sorry, Northern Tool
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Talked to store manager that sells propane at the farm show today. Price keeps rising , Feb weather will decide where the peak is.
Be glad you burn wood. !
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I bought my own tank this summer and installed it myself. It took A LOT of calling around to find someone that would actually sell me a tank other than the company that already had a leased tank on my property. The local company had a 330 gallon tank on the property from 1984 that has been here since 1985 and never serviced. Original regulators, the secondary would only put out about 10.5" WC so it was worn out. They wanted $1400 to leave that leased tank here and call it mine.
I got a 500 gallon refurbished tank for $350 I think and they gave me half off on the first fill. Prices were down during the summer. IIRC, I was around $800 for the tank and propane, plus the $150 I spent on the 100' of buried coated copper line and both regulators. I paid a buddy with a ditch witch $50 to dig a trench. All for about $1000, I got my own 500 gallon tank installed and the propane to go with it. I can buy from anyone I want to, but I'll probably stick with Southern States since they seem to have the best prices around here.
I run the furnace in the fall and spring when I don't need heat every day. It's a lot easier than building a fire every few days. My stove is also propane. I'll wait until I need at least 250 gallons to top off since the propane guy said it's cheaper to buy in bulk like that. I was going to only buy a 250 gallon tank, but the propane guy at Southern States talked me into a 500 gallon tank due to the buy in bulk argument and the fact that the bigger tank was only $50 more.
I'll also buy during the summer. It should be a few years before I need to top off.
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That's cheap for a tank. In NE PA the only ones I can find are $1000 for a 500 gallon refurb and $1600 for a new one. My tank rental is getting ridicules.
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Here, its pretty much a dollar a gallon for used, IF you can find one.
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I know it was cheap. I would have paid $1000 for a refurbished one, though. Buying propane from the cheapest supplier during the summer, it seems as though it's pretty close in line with the price of gasoline from what I've been watching. It's well worth it to own your tank, IMO.
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What are you guys paying for rent that it's worthwhile to spend $500-1000 on a used tank? I could keep mine 50 years and not be ahead of that yet. I have 2 different companies and one is $10/yr while the other is $11/yr. One place had an owned tank when I bought it and the only place I could get to fill it was considerably higher than the place I ended up renting the tank from. Like 50% more per gallon. Was a no brainer for me
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What are you guys paying for rent that it's worthwhile to spend $500-1000 on a used tank? I could keep mine 50 years and not be ahead of that yet. I have 2 different companies and one is $10/yr while the other is $11/yr. One place had an owned tank when I bought it and the only place I could get to fill it was considerably higher than the place I ended up renting the tank from. Like 50% more per gallon. Was a no brainer for me
Its generally not the tank rent where you save the money. Its buying the fuel at a cheaper price where it will pay off. Once you lease a tank, the only one who can fill it is the company that owns the tank. And the price for a gallon of propane for a leased tank is usually substantialy higher than for one where the customer owns his own tank.
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What are you guys paying for rent that it's worthwhile to spend $500-1000 on a used tank? I could keep mine 50 years and not be ahead of that yet. I have 2 different companies and one is $10/yr while the other is $11/yr. One place had an owned tank when I bought it and the only place I could get to fill it was considerably higher than the place I ended up renting the tank from. Like 50% more per gallon. Was a no brainer for me
Its generally not the tank rent where you save the money. Its buying the fuel at a cheaper price where it will pay off. Once you lease a tank, the only one who can fill it is the company that owns the tank. And the price for a gallon of propane for a leased tank is usually substantialy higher than for one where the customer owns his own tank.
Glad I don't live there I guess. Here it costs 50% more per gallon to fill an owned tank than a leased one
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$7/mo tank lease for me, plus the higher cost of fuel.
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All depends on the area of the country it appears.
When we still dried corn with LP we owned two 1000 gallon tanks, would call around and find the cheapest that year (which always seemed to change year to year) and there aways seemed to be enough difference to be worth the initial cost of buying the tanks.
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What are you guys paying for rent that it's worthwhile to spend $500-1000 on a used tank? I could keep mine 50 years and not be ahead of that yet. I have 2 different companies and one is $10/yr while the other is $11/yr. One place had an owned tank when I bought it and the only place I could get to fill it was considerably higher than the place I ended up renting the tank from. Like 50% more per gallon. Was a no brainer for me
I have two 100 gallon tanks. I have to rent one for around 90 a year. I mainly have it for the generac and cooking and pay the minimum unless I have a big power outage. The minimum works out to about $7.00 a gallon but that doesn't apply to two hundred gallons.
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We have that problem here no one will fill a tank unless they own it. They all have some bs line about insurance and tank inspections and whatever else they can come up with. We are only using propane for cooking and they were wacking us $80/yr. for the tank rental plus about $6/gal for the gas. I ended up buying 2 100# tanks and an auto-swap regulator. When one runs out the hardware store down the street will fill it for $75. Problem solved for us.
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We have that problem here no one will fill a tank unless they own it. They all have some bs line about insurance and tank inspections and whatever else they can come up with. We are only using propane for cooking and they were wacking us $80/yr. for the tank rental plus about $6/gal for the gas. I ended up buying 2 100# tanks and an auto-swap regulator. When one runs out the hardware store down the street will fill it for $75. Problem solved for us.
Anything under 100 gallons we can have filled at the hardware store also, but still much more than having the tank owners fill a big tank. I had a 100lb cylinder running a torpedo heater in my shop for a couple weeks right when I built it and I think it was like $40 a fill for 20 gallons when it was $1 a gallon to fill a 500 gallon leased tank. The hardware store works in a pinch but here is way cheaper to lease the tank and have them fill it. Plus if they get greedy I can pay the $11 to buy out my lease and go with another company for $11 more to get cheaper gas. Had to do that a few years ago, my existing company wanted $1.99 while the competitor was at $1.29 and I needed 350 gallons so I dumped company A and saved $235 by going with company B. Still have company A at my house and company B at that rental, they're within a few cents of each other as of recently
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We have that problem here no one will fill a tank unless they own it. They all have some bs line about insurance and tank inspections and whatever else they can come up with. We are only using propane for cooking and they were wacking us $80/yr. for the tank rental plus about $6/gal for the gas. I ended up buying 2 100# tanks and an auto-swap regulator. When one runs out the hardware store down the street will fill it for $75. Problem solved for us.
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Ingenuity at its best