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Plumbing / Failed Logstor?
« on: July 21, 2014, 08:33:54 AM »
While I am not ignorant enough to believe that no products ever fail, I seldom ever hear about insulation failures with Logstor Dual-PEX underground piping.... 
That said, has anyone ever heard of or photographed a failed Logstor underground piping run for an OWB furnace installation?
That said, has anyone ever heard of or photographed a failed Logstor underground piping run for an OWB furnace installation?
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General Discussion / More and More Ice...
« on: July 08, 2014, 09:32:26 AM »
...in Antarctica. Further proof of the lack of scientific understanding of the topics of climate change and global warming.
LINK:
Nice quote from the article
"'There is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent since 1979, due to… incomplete and competing scientific explanations for the causes of change,' said the report, known as the Fifth Assessment Report."
LINK:
Nice quote from the article
"'There is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent since 1979, due to… incomplete and competing scientific explanations for the causes of change,' said the report, known as the Fifth Assessment Report."
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General Discussion / Happy Birthday SlimJim!
« on: July 04, 2014, 09:14:41 AM »
A very Happy Birthday wish to our OWFI.com's own SlimJim!
I hope you have a great day celebrating with Miss America and her birthday today!
Enjoy the ride!
....and stay thristy my frind!
I hope you have a great day celebrating with Miss America and her birthday today!
Enjoy the ride!
....and stay thristy my frind!
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Portage & Main / Reminder: Portage & Main Contest Deadline is June 15, 2014
« on: May 27, 2014, 07:54:34 AM »
Just a friendly reminder to those that have purchased a Portage & Main outdoor wood boiler (any model):
The Portage and Main contest for a FREE P&M Ultimizer BL-2840 owb (or a $7000 cash prize option; winner's choice) is July 3rd, 2014.
Contes eligibility is restricted to only those who have purchased their P&M OWB between January 16, 2014 and May 31, 2014 and paid for the unit (in full).
Entries can be e-mailed to P&M until June 15, 2014 . Entries are to include a picture of the P&M bolier owner with his/her purchased unit (pictures showing the delaer unloading the boiler are preferred). Full contest details are available at the P&M website at the link below or by calling Portage and Main at (306) 922-1722 or (800)561-0700.
LINK: Portage and Main Outdoor Water Furnaces (Click Here)
Note: I am unaffiliated in any manner nor receive any compensation of any kind from Portage & Main boilers. This is just a simple contest date reminder for those that may be interested. Cheers and good luck!
The Portage and Main contest for a FREE P&M Ultimizer BL-2840 owb (or a $7000 cash prize option; winner's choice) is July 3rd, 2014.
Contes eligibility is restricted to only those who have purchased their P&M OWB between January 16, 2014 and May 31, 2014 and paid for the unit (in full).
Entries can be e-mailed to P&M until June 15, 2014 . Entries are to include a picture of the P&M bolier owner with his/her purchased unit (pictures showing the delaer unloading the boiler are preferred). Full contest details are available at the P&M website at the link below or by calling Portage and Main at (306) 922-1722 or (800)561-0700.
LINK: Portage and Main Outdoor Water Furnaces (Click Here)
Note: I am unaffiliated in any manner nor receive any compensation of any kind from Portage & Main boilers. This is just a simple contest date reminder for those that may be interested. Cheers and good luck!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Is Climate Change "Settled Science?": 31,072 Scientists Assert Otherwise
« on: May 21, 2014, 08:40:49 AM »
While the liberal media bias reporting continues to purport the alarming issue of climate change as "fact," 31,072 bona fide scientists (including 9,000 PhDs) assert this as an unsettled issue (contrary to the NoBlama administration and United Nations assertions). Read more about the Petition Project below:
LINK: Climate Change Remains Unsettled, Say 31,072 Scientists (Click Here)
Interesting how the facts can be twisted to meet political agendas (admittedly, in both political directions), isn't it?
I suppose I need to call the article's author to assert my position and bump it up to 31,073 scientists.
LINK: Climate Change Remains Unsettled, Say 31,072 Scientists (Click Here)
Interesting how the facts can be twisted to meet political agendas (admittedly, in both political directions), isn't it?
I suppose I need to call the article's author to assert my position and bump it up to 31,073 scientists.
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General Discussion / Resource for Examining the Historical Prices of Propane/Heating Oil in the U.S.
« on: May 20, 2014, 03:33:35 PM »
For those that might be trying to compare how much money they are saving or calculating a return on investment for an OWB (when compared to propane and/or heating oil prices), the United States Energy Information Administration has historical data for the actual residential prices of these energy sources back to 1990.
LINK: Petroleum & Other Liquid Energy Prices (Click Here and select View History)
Cheers.
LINK: Petroleum & Other Liquid Energy Prices (Click Here and select View History)
Cheers.
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Plumbing / Stainless Steel Manifolds and Circ Pumps
« on: April 25, 2014, 07:56:58 AM »
For those who have experience aand/or installed systems, could you please recommend manufacturers and models of stainless steel recirculation pumps and manifolds for radiant floor heat? 
(Note: this will be an open system installation).
I just am fishing for what to look at and have no intention of starting a Ford vs. Chevy debate.
I just want to compare what is "out there."
Thank you for leads, links, and suggestions. -Sloppy
(Note: this will be an open system installation).I just am fishing for what to look at and have no intention of starting a Ford vs. Chevy debate.
I just want to compare what is "out there."
Thank you for leads, links, and suggestions.
-Sloppy23
Plumbing / Best Technique for Removing Logstor Outer Casing & PUF Insulation
« on: April 04, 2014, 10:43:27 AM »
I am hoping those who have more experience than I with Logstor could answer a simple question...
What is the "proper" or best way to remove the outer black casing and insulation from the last foot of Logstor Dual PEX-Flex piping (without damaging the PEX tubing)?
I am speaking to the ends of the installed pipe where the Pex will attach to my water jacket and the Pex in the Logstor as the pipe enters my home.
Thanks! -Slopster
What is the "proper" or best way to remove the outer black casing and insulation from the last foot of Logstor Dual PEX-Flex piping (without damaging the PEX tubing)?
I am speaking to the ends of the installed pipe where the Pex will attach to my water jacket and the Pex in the Logstor as the pipe enters my home.
Thanks! -Slopster
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Portage & Main / Ultimizer Water Jackets - Why Smaller?
« on: March 25, 2014, 08:45:34 AM »
Although I have recently purchased a BL 34-44 Ultimizer, I am wondering why these Portage & Main units have such smaller water jackets than many other P&M and other brands of OWBs.
Why is this not a problem with the Ultimizers?
Does this ever have the potential to be an issue with high heat demand situations due to the reduced volume of water used to transfer the BTUs?
Just trying to edjumikate myself more on heat transfer using water. Thanks for any and all input. -Slopster
Why is this not a problem with the Ultimizers?
Does this ever have the potential to be an issue with high heat demand situations due to the reduced volume of water used to transfer the BTUs?
Just trying to edjumikate myself more on heat transfer using water. Thanks for any and all input.
-Slopster25
Portage & Main / Blog: Sloppy's P&M Ultimizer BL 34-44 Installation Thread
« on: March 24, 2014, 05:18:25 PM »
As suggested by some others of this forum, I am going to try to post the process of installation of my Portage & Main Ultimizer BL 34-44 owb for my 5,900 sq. ft. home (load, loss, specs., layout design will be posted in the future 
).
This thread will be an evolutionary thread where I continually post pictures, questions, information my dealer is telling me, progress reports, etc. Feel free to post any questions or comments you like. Here I go....
March 21, 2014:
Next door neighbor brought over his Allmand backhoe and dug my main trench some 80 feet long for a "work trade" of me grinding out some stumps for him in May 2014. "Free." All trenching is 36" minimum with 60" depth on both ends of the trench. This will allow for "bending the Logstor anaconda" and access with tools near the entrance to the house. Logstor Dual Pex-Flex is to be utilized for the underground piping but 1" versus 1 1/4" dual pex pipes is still being debated with my dealer (who is helping me with the installation design but I am performing the actual labor myself). Enough talk.... pictures tell so much more, right?
No pictures of the Allmand backhoe in action but the resulting trench came out nicely.
Trench 56 inches right at the outer basement wall (prior to core drilling)
Hand digging with the old shovel near the house. No backhoe accidents occurred.
Better living through hydraulics... bottom of the ditch is quite level.
Tulip poplar tree, stump and roots didn't phase the backhoe bucket.
A look down the trench toward the end-of-the-owb-line.
End of the trench run (looking back toward my house) where concrete pad will be poured for the BL 34-44. Water in the bottom of the trench is from a natural spring. A drain tile will be installed to keep it drained.
).This thread will be an evolutionary thread where I continually post pictures, questions, information my dealer is telling me, progress reports, etc. Feel free to post any questions or comments you like. Here I go....
March 21, 2014:
Next door neighbor brought over his Allmand backhoe and dug my main trench some 80 feet long for a "work trade" of me grinding out some stumps for him in May 2014. "Free." All trenching is 36" minimum with 60" depth on both ends of the trench. This will allow for "bending the Logstor anaconda" and access with tools near the entrance to the house. Logstor Dual Pex-Flex is to be utilized for the underground piping but 1" versus 1 1/4" dual pex pipes is still being debated with my dealer (who is helping me with the installation design but I am performing the actual labor myself). Enough talk.... pictures tell so much more, right?
No pictures of the Allmand backhoe in action but the resulting trench came out nicely.
Trench 56 inches right at the outer basement wall (prior to core drilling)
Hand digging with the old shovel near the house. No backhoe accidents occurred.
Better living through hydraulics... bottom of the ditch is quite level.
Tulip poplar tree, stump and roots didn't phase the backhoe bucket.
A look down the trench toward the end-of-the-owb-line.
End of the trench run (looking back toward my house) where concrete pad will be poured for the BL 34-44. Water in the bottom of the trench is from a natural spring. A drain tile will be installed to keep it drained.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / New Hoosier Coal Mine!
« on: March 20, 2014, 09:16:35 AM »
Happened to be searching the internet the other day for pictures of "open coal seams" and happened to discover a new coal mine that recently opened near Jasonville, IN. Apparently they are contracted to supply bituminous coal to Indianapolis Power & Light (IPL) for years to come. The Skelly and Loy mine appraisal indicates the "reasonable price" of the coal to be sold from the mine at $45 to $61 per ton.
LINK: LGI Landree Mine Project (Click Here)
Says they have low sulfer ( < 1.5%) bituminous coal throughout the main seam being mined.
Check the mine pictures and videos out.... pretty cool.
LINK: LGI Landree Mine Pictures (Click Here)
LINK: LGI Landree Mine Videos (Click Here)
I have no idea whether or not this mine sells to the general public but I will certainly be asking.
LINK: LGI Landree Mine Project (Click Here)
Says they have low sulfer ( < 1.5%) bituminous coal throughout the main seam being mined.
Check the mine pictures and videos out.... pretty cool.
LINK: LGI Landree Mine Pictures (Click Here)
LINK: LGI Landree Mine Videos (Click Here)
I have no idea whether or not this mine sells to the general public but I will certainly be asking.
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General Discussion / Whole Lotta.... "Scotts"!
« on: March 07, 2014, 07:47:00 AM »
I have been reading a great deal on this forum and have noticed that there seems to be a large percentage of the forum members named "Scott." I, Sloppy_Snood, am also a person whose real name is Scott.
How many other Scott's are on this forum!?
Please post up if your real name is Scott and let's get some sort of tally.
How many other Scott's are on this forum!?
Please post up if your real name is Scott and let's get some sort of tally.
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Plumbing / ....Through the Poured Concrete Wall
« on: March 06, 2014, 04:46:07 PM »
I spent a bit of time researching products and techniques for sealing a pipe (like Logstor Dual PEX-Flex) that is penetrating a core drilled hole through a solid concrete basement wall. I actually consulted my brother-in-law who is a 30+ year veteran in the heavy commercial construction business. He suggested a product called Link SealR (which I will be using for my upcoming installation for a 6-inch core-drilled hole through a 10-inch solid concrete wall). Logstor (4.3" o.d.) expanding and sealing to my 6" hole will require a Link Seal costing $35... not too shabby for complete waterproofness I think.
The Link Seal product looks like this
You can read more about Link Seal pipe sealing solutions at their website.
LINK: Link Seal Modular Seals (Click Here)
Many YouTube videos exist on Link Seal but I thought this one was pretty good:
GPT Industries Link-Seal® Installation
Note: I do not work for nor am compensated by the Link Seal company in ANY manner. I just thought I would share what I believe to be a really nice product for my application and possibly anyone else that might desire a good-looking, waterproof seal for their hydronic piping.
I will post some pictures up of my installation with this Link Seal product in the future. Cheers! -Slopster
The Link Seal product looks like this
You can read more about Link Seal pipe sealing solutions at their website.
LINK: Link Seal Modular Seals (Click Here)
Many YouTube videos exist on Link Seal but I thought this one was pretty good:
GPT Industries Link-Seal® Installation
Note: I do not work for nor am compensated by the Link Seal company in ANY manner. I just thought I would share what I believe to be a really nice product for my application and possibly anyone else that might desire a good-looking, waterproof seal for their hydronic piping.
I will post some pictures up of my installation with this Link Seal product in the future. Cheers! -Slopster
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Plumbing / Uponor (Wirsbo) ProPEX versus ViegaPEX PureFlow Crimp
« on: March 02, 2014, 02:31:37 PM »
As part of my system design plan, I have seemingly run into "two schools" of people who support one of two different brand products for PEX-A tubing for water transfer in a hydronic heating system:
Uponor (Wirsbo) ProPEX Fittings (Click Here) and ViegaPEX PureFlow Crimp fittings (Click Here)
I admittedly do not know anything much about either (other than what I have read at the manufacturers' websites). I do understand that Uponor (Wirsbo) supposedly has the largest internal diameter of any fitting I can find so this ought to be great for not impeding flow (correct?).
Thank you to all for your input. Cheers! -Slopster
So,,,, sell me the "best" product and your reasons/rationale why. Which is best?
If another brand/style is better, sell me on your preference for that product.
Uponor (Wirsbo) ProPEX Fittings (Click Here) and ViegaPEX PureFlow Crimp fittings (Click Here)
I admittedly do not know anything much about either (other than what I have read at the manufacturers' websites). I do understand that Uponor (Wirsbo) supposedly has the largest internal diameter of any fitting I can find so this ought to be great for not impeding flow (correct?).
Thank you to all for your input.
Cheers! -SlopsterSo,,,, sell me the "best" product and your reasons/rationale why. Which is best?
If another brand/style is better, sell me on your preference for that product.
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Plumbing / What Type Pex in Logstor?
« on: February 25, 2014, 02:56:08 PM »
So.... on Logstor's website I cannot find exactly what type of PEX tubing they utilize in the manufacture of their Dual PEX-Flex Piping.
My understanding is that PEX tubing can be of three different types: Pex A, Pex B, or Pex C.
Which PEX tubing type is contained within Logstor's Dual PEX-Flex insulated underground piping? Pex A, Pex B, or Pex C?
Thank you and cheers! -Slospter
My understanding is that PEX tubing can be of three different types: Pex A, Pex B, or Pex C.
Which PEX tubing type is contained within Logstor's Dual PEX-Flex insulated underground piping? Pex A, Pex B, or Pex C?
Thank you and cheers! -Slospter