Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Equipment => Topic started by: jborden3 on February 01, 2013, 10:04:47 AM
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I have been running a huskee 372xp for years and i dropped a big oak on it about a week ago they dont make that saw anymore so i have been looking at a little bigger saw i have looked at a still 660 and if i go back to a huskee i will have to order it as no one in my area deals in the pro huskee saws so parts and service for the still would be a lot better around here any advice would be great thanks
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I prefer Stihl saws. If your interested in a big firewood saw about as big as I would go is the 460Magnum, it's a beast and offers better power to weight ration than the 660Magnum. I have owned both, 660 is just a bit much most of the time..
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Tsc or some other place I saw a year or so ago had chain saws on them that said huskee. They sure weren't husqvarna though, I have seen folks who thought husqvarna and huskee were the same brands even in wood splitters.
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I am talking about husqvarna saws and yes i know that lowes and home depot and tsc sale a cheap version of the husqvarna saw that is nothing like there professional saws. I help a friend of mine that logs sometime so i was looking at the 660 for that reason he has one with a 20 inch bar for trimming and it never slows down makes it nice when you have some one behind you cutting they dont have to wait
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I am talking about husqvarna saws and yes i know that lowes and home depot and tsc sale a cheap version of the husqvarna saw that is nothing like there professional saws. I help a friend of mine that logs sometime so i was looking at the 660 for that reason he has one with a 20 inch bar for trimming and it never slows down makes it nice when you have some one behind you cutting they dont have to wait
Yep, I was wondering if you were gonna use it for a firewood saw only.
I like big saws too
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I have a husqvarna 262xp
and a 359 both have 20 inch bars ive cut 24 -26 inch logs with it
The 262xp has more power
My brother in law has a stihl 440 mag its a 22 inch deff cuts faster and has more power but cost 1,000 bucks.
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I've used Stihl before but now I have three Husqvarna.
Two 455 with 18" bar
One 460 with 24" bar
I always mix a little "Sea Foam" with my gas and never had any problems.
Cut about 25 cords last year
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I use stihl because they are easy to get here. 460 is a great all around big saw. anything bigger do not run them out of gas they will score the cylinder walls. It has happen to me twice.
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I run nothing but 93 octane and amsoil in all my 2 stroke
People often assume more oil means better protection, nothing could be further from the truth, more oil breaks down the octane of the fuel and causes the engine to detonate far easier,
When that happens temps go wild and pistons stick to cylinder walls
I used to buy stihls and rebuild them, 90% all had the same issue
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I run amsoil in my vehicles didnt know they made mixing oil for two strokes.
It hurts to change the oil in my 5.0 2011 f150 8.2 quarts at 8 bucks a quarts with a 15 dollar filter.Ouch
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Yea it comes in little ketchup like packs
Great stuff
I saw testing where they ran it down to 500:1 before they had a failure
1 pack is 1 gallon
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I hear with a new still if you use there synthetic oil you get 4x the warranty that is a good deal if it is true. husqvarna runs a little more RPM than the still and so i would think they cut some faster but parts around here are a lot cheaper for the still local dealer for both tells me he can rebuild a still for half what it takes to rebuild the husqvarna what to do what to do.
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Did someone say amsoil was made somewhere? I missed something
My point wasn't you should be rebuilding saws,
I was repairing saws people had normally ran to much oil in the gas, it lowers the octane of the fuel and causes detonation, when that happens chamber temps go wild and pistons gald to cylinder walls.
Luckily most of the time, the aluminum from the piston would be smeared over the chrome lining of the cylinder wall and could be flaked off, after that it was about getting the rings unstuck out of the ring grooves, once you had them loose you could often put new rings on it and get back to work, but occasionally they would require new pistons as well
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I wanted a little smaller saw so I recently bought a Hsqvarna 550xp with 18" bar. Great saw so far but not a lot of use yet. My old faithful is a Sthil 034 running a 24" bar and skip tooth chain. It has served me well over the years. When I bought the new saw the dealer recommended using what he called racing fuel with a good quality synthetic oil ,which is a 90 octane but does not have the ethanol.
I don't claim to know if this is a good or bad idea so I would be interested in what some of you more experienced think of it.
As far as which saw I would say it's Ford vs Chevy type of thing with availability of local support probably tipping the scale.
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Alcohol is less likely to detonate, alcohol engines can run much higher compression before losing control of cylinder temps
High test "93" is hard to beat
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I can't believe that dealer would have recommended alcohol - it'd take a bunch of carb adjustments just to get it to run. It would probably void the warranty, too.
He was probably talking about TurboBlue or one of the other race-type gasolines. 104~ ish octane.
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I think he said it didn't have alcohol, but I don't understand it being only 90 octane
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Funny..I bought my new saw a couple of months ago (Jonsered 2188).. He says to buy the high octane from your local gas station.. I can get gas from 91-94 octane..Depends where I go..Now my dealer also told me I can run aviation fuel..Aviation fuel is like the old fuel..Doesn't have the crap in it like your local gas station has..Theres 2 small airports where I can buy it..Far as my 2 stroke oil I buy it all from where the pro's buy it..What ever they sell I will use..2 cases of 2 stroke oil cost me $70.00
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It's good stuff, I run it in everything
Oil changes every 25k
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I have a couple huskys and a stihl
and ive had 21 fords and one chevy and it was a corvette
But yeah i think huskys and stihls are both great.They last even if you beat them up.
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My local dealer sales some of that caned fuel that has no alcohol in it and they recommend to any one that leaves a saw setting for a long period of time to put it in there tank as the alcohol eats lines and seal up bad.
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STIHL 460 W/ 25 INCH BAR IS A GREAT SAW, STIHL ALSO NOW HAS A 461 OUT AND SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT IT IS JUST HAS GOOD
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Buy the saw that has the hottest girls in the skimpiest clothes on their calender. If she is rubbed down in Amsoil, all the better.
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I think he said it didn't have alcohol, but I don't understand it being only 90 octane
No it doesn't have alcohol/ethanol, The dealer did recommend high octane, the non alcohol was also supposed to be better for longer term storage and the specific fuel was just what was available locally and in his opinion the best compromise along with a quality synthetic oil.
He also told me that the new fuels have only about a 90 day lifespan before they start to break down. This guy may be right or he may be crazy, I'm just tryin to figure out it out.
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From what i understand the more ethanol the less storage time.
I bought a 2011 5.0 f150 flex fuel hoping to run e85 noone around here sells it .Not enough demand oh well.IT probably starts going bad inside the distribution trucks.
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From what i understand the more ethanol the less storage time.
I bought a 2011 5.0 f150 flex fuel hoping to run e85 noone around here sells it .Not enough demand oh well.IT probably starts going bad inside the distribution trucks.
I live in NH and the closest e85 station that I know of is in Chelsea MA just outside of Boston (1 hr 10 mins away)..Go to E85locator.net to find your closest e85 station
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Mine is sixty miles away
a couple electric charging stations
cng and propane close by
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I bought the still 660 guys thanks for all the opinions i am going to put it to work today and see how it dose.
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+1 on 372....a little muffler mod and carb tune and they get up and fly..... :thumbup: :thumbup:
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i have allways been partial to Stihl saws. I guess its kinda like anything else. I have an 024 & 034 and have cut a lot of wood over 30 years. Most of my friends run Husky pro saws and they really like them. I am testing a small RedMax saw. I have run it for two years. Its a dag bern little screamer now. But to answer your question, Stihl especially if you have a local dealer.
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A nearby dealer has not ever been an issue for me. I have always liked to tinker, and with the easy parts availability of most brands out there via the internet, I can mess something up really bad and still come out way ahead verses paying a dealer $75.00/hr.
My newest saw at the moment is a Stihl 310, but I rarely use it. I usually take either my 550 or XL923 Homelites for bigger trees, any one of my 3-360 Homelites, or Mac 610, or sometimes even my one of my old Mac 250's if I'm feelin' nostalgic for medium trees and bucking, and for limbing I'll take either my CS40 or CS50 Homelite, or sometimes my dads old Mac10-10 Auto, or maybe my 430VC Mac.
If for some reason any of the above, or even all of them fail to start, I've got a many more on hand to take their place!
I've only got about $1600 into every saw that I've bought over the years. A lot of folks have that much into one saw. Quite a few of mine were actual basket cases when I got them. I've only got two saws at the moment that don't run (a Mac 200 and a 330 Homelite), and I'll get them up and running before I'll let another follow me home...maybe >:D >:D
Did I mention that I like chainsaws and I love to work on them. :)
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Buy the saw that has the hottest girls in the skimpiest clothes on their calender. If she is rubbed down in Amsoil, all the better.
that's great!
I own a tree service and have used most brands and models. Now we use Husky exclusively except for pole saws which are echo for greatest reach.
Stihl and Husky are both good brands as long as you buy the pro(stihl)or xp(husky) series. They cost more but well worth it.
I love it when someone tells me that they have had a saw for 20 years. I wish saws had hour meters.