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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: weather
« on: September 24, 2009, 01:55:11 PM »
Dang global warming 
Indiana weather next week highs in 60s lows in 40s
This week has been 80s and 70s
Indiana weather next week highs in 60s lows in 40s
This week has been 80s and 70s
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Tossed what to buy. Wood Master or Central Boiler
« on: September 24, 2009, 01:52:24 PM »
You cant go wrong with either one, my best buddy has a central and I have a woodmaster 4400 we have both had them for about 5 years. Both are good equipment, there is no problem with the open bottom or the pumps on the woodmaster. He chose a Central because there is a dealer close to him and it is the most populer around here.
I went with Woodmaster becaause I liked the faster recovery time with the fan and the eaiser to adjust temprature control for the water temp, lets you save a lot of wood if you turn the water temp down from 170-18 to 130-140 in the milder parts of the heating season. Also lets you burn less seasoned wood.
I also liked the fact that it is on the "stilts", easier to install and helps keeps mice out.
My third and final preference was the round burn box, less welds to rust and holds more wood than central giving me longer burn times to cover my work time/bed time
I went with Woodmaster becaause I liked the faster recovery time with the fan and the eaiser to adjust temprature control for the water temp, lets you save a lot of wood if you turn the water temp down from 170-18 to 130-140 in the milder parts of the heating season. Also lets you burn less seasoned wood.
I also liked the fact that it is on the "stilts", easier to install and helps keeps mice out.
My third and final preference was the round burn box, less welds to rust and holds more wood than central giving me longer burn times to cover my work time/bed time
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Are the OWB dealers like car dealers?
« on: March 18, 2009, 12:33:05 PM »
Most of the things that I have read about Hawkin is that it is good they have a long war. because they seem to break down, rust through etc. I have a 4400 and it has served me well for 4 years now, although I did have to replace the fan
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Are the OWB dealers like car dealers?
« on: March 17, 2009, 12:54:05 PM »
Not so much like car dealers my woodmaster guys told me that they make about $500.00 / unit, where they pick up is on the install
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Should I buy a Woodmaster???
« on: March 05, 2009, 01:35:20 PM »
I have a woodmaster 4400 for 4 years now and love it. I heat about 4000 sq ft and domestic water. In the 4 years the only issue that I have had is I had to replace the fan and the door gasket. The door opening is 24 x 24 so anything that size or smaller can go in.
If you use the bigger logs, you do have to fill in with smaller ones around it.
The electronic control panel is the best, you can easily adjust your water temps to the outside conditions and save wood. It is much easier and user friendly than the aquastats. I have used about 12 cords this season but Indiana has been very cold (darn global warming) and windy.
My house is a 2 story with R-19 in the walls and r-38 in the roof, BUT I have only corn fields around me so there are no wind breaks.
If you use the bigger logs, you do have to fill in with smaller ones around it.
The electronic control panel is the best, you can easily adjust your water temps to the outside conditions and save wood. It is much easier and user friendly than the aquastats. I have used about 12 cords this season but Indiana has been very cold (darn global warming) and windy.
My house is a 2 story with R-19 in the walls and r-38 in the roof, BUT I have only corn fields around me so there are no wind breaks.
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Site Suggestions / Re: Suggestions
« on: January 23, 2009, 05:48:58 AM »
Could you add a section for corn boilers? Maybe one for windmills?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Has anyone ever heard of Oak Tree boilers made in PA?
« on: January 21, 2009, 10:24:28 AM »
My hometown in Indiana has a guy starting up as a dealer, I looked at the stoves and they look ok but was wondering if anyone has experience with one?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: new buyer
« on: January 21, 2009, 07:40:50 AM »dealers give all good responses,i am glad for this info group of users,i have been told to add water daily,weekly ,yearly.get ash pan,do not get one.large water jacket to hold more heat longer,smaller jacket cycles better.any other questions i should ask let me know thanks.rawright
I have a woodmaster 4400 for 3 years now and love it. I have had to replace the fan and the door gasket. I chose a model that holds a little water like 125 gallons. To me, the idea of having a lot of water didnt really make sense from an effeciency standpoint. I mean, you are going to take all of the btu's out of the wood, circulate it to the house and back, have some heat loss there.
My point is, you must have less heat loss if you store the btus in the unburned wood rather than the circulating water.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Temperature
« on: January 15, 2009, 12:42:11 PM »
Yes willieg, I like to call it a hillbilly chic design
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: THINKING OF A WAY TO HOOK UP MY GENERATOR
« on: January 15, 2009, 12:40:08 PM »
WillieG
You bring up a good point that it is theoretically possible to kill someone however........Linemen always treat the lines as if they are hot regardless, linemen wear procteive gear that eoul allow them to hold the cord directly out of the generator and finally, if you didnt kill the main and your generator were to "feed out" into the lines, it will either a) kill the engine because of the surge in draw from all of the other customers on the line section that is out or b) blow the breaker in the generator its self as you would be pulling way may then the 20-30 amps that the on generator breaker allows
You bring up a good point that it is theoretically possible to kill someone however........Linemen always treat the lines as if they are hot regardless, linemen wear procteive gear that eoul allow them to hold the cord directly out of the generator and finally, if you didnt kill the main and your generator were to "feed out" into the lines, it will either a) kill the engine because of the surge in draw from all of the other customers on the line section that is out or b) blow the breaker in the generator its self as you would be pulling way may then the 20-30 amps that the on generator breaker allows
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WoodMaster / Re: A Newbie with some questions
« on: January 15, 2009, 11:20:44 AM »
Adding the 90 makes no difference in performance, you really arent restricting anything
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: What temp do you run your boiler at?
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:28:32 AM »
20-40 outside temp with 10mph wind or less - on 140 off 150
20-40 outside temp with 11mph + winds - on 150 off 160
0-20 outside temp with 10mph wind or less - on 150 off 160
0-20 outside temp with 11mph + winds - on 170 off 180
20-40 outside temp with 11mph + winds - on 150 off 160
0-20 outside temp with 10mph wind or less - on 150 off 160
0-20 outside temp with 11mph + winds - on 170 off 180
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Temperature
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:21:01 AM »
I got a cheap unit from walmart for like $10.00 (accutemp?) anyway it has a small digital thermometer that shows inside and outside temps about the size of a skoal can. To get the outside temp you have a little sending unit about the size of a skoal can that you put outside.
I took the outside mounting unit and put it on my pex, wrapped it with pipe insulation and it send the temp to the easy to read unit. Its hillbilly but 1. It works 2. Its cheap 3. Tells me if I am getting low on wood w/o going outisde
I took the outside mounting unit and put it on my pex, wrapped it with pipe insulation and it send the temp to the easy to read unit. Its hillbilly but 1. It works 2. Its cheap 3. Tells me if I am getting low on wood w/o going outisde
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: THINKING OF A WAY TO HOOK UP MY GENERATOR
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:13:44 AM »
1. Kill main
2. Plug generator in to any 220 such as in shop, for dryer, for stove, for tanning be etc
3. Turn off everything in house
4. Fire generator
5. Back to normal life, generator will back feed entire house (I have a 5000 watt and we can do everything but dry clothes)
2. Plug generator in to any 220 such as in shop, for dryer, for stove, for tanning be etc
3. Turn off everything in house
4. Fire generator
5. Back to normal life, generator will back feed entire house (I have a 5000 watt and we can do everything but dry clothes)
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: standard questions...
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:11:35 AM »
1. What brand OWB do you have? Woodmaster 4400
2. How long are your burn times? So dependant on weather and wood but on average 8-12 hours when filled
3. How full do you fill it? Full in the morning before work, full in the evening before bed. In between home from work and bed time fillings depend on how naggy the wife is
4. What type of wood you burn? (pallets, scrap millwork, oak...) - Mostly maple, pine and telephone poles
5. How many sq ft of floor lines do you heat? air/air exchanger in upstairs and downstairs furnace
6. How many sq ft of home space does your furnace heat (that the OWB feeds) 4200
7. What else do you heat? (pool, hot tub, water heaters, coffee maker...) domestic hot water
8. Type of home? (older construction, poor insulation, lots of drafts... ) 100 years old r-19 in walls, r-19 in crawl space, r-38 in attic. BUT NO WIND BREAKS UNTIL MY TREES GROW
2. How long are your burn times? So dependant on weather and wood but on average 8-12 hours when filled
3. How full do you fill it? Full in the morning before work, full in the evening before bed. In between home from work and bed time fillings depend on how naggy the wife is
4. What type of wood you burn? (pallets, scrap millwork, oak...) - Mostly maple, pine and telephone poles
5. How many sq ft of floor lines do you heat? air/air exchanger in upstairs and downstairs furnace
6. How many sq ft of home space does your furnace heat (that the OWB feeds) 4200
7. What else do you heat? (pool, hot tub, water heaters, coffee maker...) domestic hot water
8. Type of home? (older construction, poor insulation, lots of drafts... ) 100 years old r-19 in walls, r-19 in crawl space, r-38 in attic. BUT NO WIND BREAKS UNTIL MY TREES GROW