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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Needing a fire at night
« on: September 29, 2015, 06:24:31 PM »
I just use the propane furnace for what little heat is needed in early fall. Its usually mid to late October before I fire up the stove
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Last winter with the forest eater
« on: September 06, 2015, 10:23:16 AM »
I've been in the same position here for over a year now. After 13 years with my Central, I'm looking to scale back on the wood cutting. Got close to 2 years worth of wood cut, split, and stacked so I'm ready for a gasifier.
Just haven't been able to convince myself to write out that $10,000 check yet.
Just haven't been able to convince myself to write out that $10,000 check yet.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Lessons learned or tips/advice on best location for boiler
« on: September 06, 2015, 08:11:00 AM »
For placement, You'll be loading it several times a day in all kinds of weather so I'd keep it convienent. If your in the open, try to place the door so prevailing winds keep the smoke away when loading. You'll want your wood pile close and consider any future buildings. My insurance co. happens to have a 50' minimum setback so that may be something to keep in mind if your company ever changed its underwriting, or if you ever want to switch companies.
A concrete pad is the best way to go. If you have it poured when the concrete crew is there doing your basement floor, the cost will be very little. As stated by crow, make the pad big enough for a loading area and you'll stay out of the mud during spring and fall.
Also, spend the money now and get good underground piping. If your in heavy or wet soils, something like thermopex holds up well.
A concrete pad is the best way to go. If you have it poured when the concrete crew is there doing your basement floor, the cost will be very little. As stated by crow, make the pad big enough for a loading area and you'll stay out of the mud during spring and fall.
Also, spend the money now and get good underground piping. If your in heavy or wet soils, something like thermopex holds up well.
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Central Boiler / Eclassic users- Smoke bypass door question
« on: August 29, 2015, 07:15:25 PM »
Just curious how well this feature works at keeping the smoke out of way when reloading the furnace.
With a couple sections of chimney pipe does it draw most of it out the flue or does a lot still spill out the door?
With a couple sections of chimney pipe does it draw most of it out the flue or does a lot still spill out the door?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Thermostatic bypass valve and freeze protection
« on: August 23, 2015, 06:55:26 PM »The thermostatic valve is installed in the house and it does not close to 100%. Even if water drops below 150 degrees it allows enough water through to accept back feed heat from the in house coil in the now backup forced air system or a plate exchanger to keep lines and outdoor boiler from freezing.
OK cool, good to know.
Thanks!
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Thermostatic bypass valve and freeze protection
« on: August 23, 2015, 09:09:52 AM »
In my search for a replacement to my 5648, I've noticed most manufacturers now require a thermostatic bypass to be installed. The way I understand this is it will close at 150 degrees and recirculate the water back to the boiler. If this is the case, it seems I will loose the freeze up protection I now have when my propane furnace comes on.
Am I understanding this correctly? If so, any other options other than antifreeze for freeze up protection?
Am I understanding this correctly? If so, any other options other than antifreeze for freeze up protection?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Soft vs Hard wood - Worth the switch
« on: July 08, 2015, 07:19:17 PM »
Google up a firewood BTU chart and you'll be able to see exactly how much you gain/loose between different trees. If you were burning popple or white pine last year and switched to something like oak, you'll notice a big difference. But comparing something like a Norway pine or douglas fir to a hardwood like elm or ash, shows they arent all that much different. It really depends on which trees your trying to compare.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Heatmor stove supply epa
« on: July 01, 2015, 07:35:12 PM »
Im sure dealers ordered in some extra stoves before the May 15th ban, but the catch is they only have until the end of the year to get rid of them. Unless the manufacturers are willing to take back any unsold inventory, I doubt anyone ordered any more stoves then they can sell off by this fall. Getting stuck with a bunch of 8-10 thousand dollar boilers past December would be financial ruin for most.
If your in the market for a new one, I wouldn't hesitate. Once their gone, their gone.
If your in the market for a new one, I wouldn't hesitate. Once their gone, their gone.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: cardboard burn with no water?
« on: May 25, 2015, 07:35:43 PM »
You definitely don't want to fire it without water . Your central boiler dealer will have the corrosion inhibitor. Dont forget to pick up a water test kit if yours is old if you dont have one. I've found the purple dye can go bad after a few years, and you'll want to test the water after the refill.
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Central Boiler / Re: New classic edge
« on: May 19, 2015, 06:30:13 PM »I'm not seeing it on the list of EPA approved stoves?
I couldn't find it either. I was hoping to find some efficiency numbers and btu burn times.
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Central Boiler / Re: New classic edge
« on: May 17, 2015, 06:25:58 AM »
I talked a bit with a local dealer yesterday on this new line of stoves. It seems as though they've cut back on a few of the options and features of the eclassic to make the stove more affordable. Sounds like there might be a few improvements to design also.
He has some on order and they should be arriving in the coming weeks. Im eager to check them out. Its nice to see a gasifier line of stoves start at $6500.
Besides the 350 and 550, there's also a 750 that should be available later this summer.
He has some on order and they should be arriving in the coming weeks. Im eager to check them out. Its nice to see a gasifier line of stoves start at $6500.
Besides the 350 and 550, there's also a 750 that should be available later this summer.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / New member- Gasifier questions/suggestions
« on: May 16, 2015, 03:17:50 PM »
Hi Everyone,
New member here but a long time OWB user. This fall will start my 13th year with my Classic 5648 and Ive been considering updating to a gasifier.
One question I have, however, is how do these stoves perform with 24 hour burn times?
From what Ive read, airflow and a good coal bed are key to good performance, and most seem to go with a 12 hour burn to achieve this.
I leave for work at 4:30 AM and would prefer to just load at night and not have to mess with it until I get home in the afternoon. Am I asking for trouble?
Anyone run these gasifiers on longer burn times with good results?
New member here but a long time OWB user. This fall will start my 13th year with my Classic 5648 and Ive been considering updating to a gasifier.
One question I have, however, is how do these stoves perform with 24 hour burn times?
From what Ive read, airflow and a good coal bed are key to good performance, and most seem to go with a 12 hour burn to achieve this.
I leave for work at 4:30 AM and would prefer to just load at night and not have to mess with it until I get home in the afternoon. Am I asking for trouble?
Anyone run these gasifiers on longer burn times with good results?