Perhaps I missed something there Marty, I think I know how you feel about such things and I share a lot of those sentiments, I do not however condemn any body for their backroom escapades as long as it is all consensual, I leave that part for my God to sort out, I also think that I did understand Neal's post and believe it was meant to be controversial in order to grab the human eye, much like the headlines of a newspaper, I see nothing wrong with that.