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[woodman]

So if the new EPA standards are put into effect this spring, will there be a loophole for the manufactures that build "coal boilers" that could burn wood also?

[MattyNH]

From what I understand coal boilers are in a different catagory and not affected by this epa propasal

[AirForcePOL]

Coal boilers won't be regulated by the new proposal.  Heatmaster stoves for example can burn wood or coal.  I'm guessing they will still sell the same exact model except they will be sold as coal only stoves.  I'm sure there will be a hefty fine for getting caught burning wood in a "coal" stove. 

[juddspaintballs]

gotta have a warrant to look...

[Jwood]

I doubt it just the same as any diesel can have the fuel tank checked for off road diesel they can do it if they want!

[juddspaintballs]

rules while driving are different than rules on private property

[slimjim]

I would not bet money on that juddspaintballs, I have dealt with the DEP here in Maine for way to many years to ever think that they won't push their agenda, Ever hear of Ruby Ridge?

[ijon]

Isn't it funny that they would be able to find people to fine you, but not be able to control our borders.

[slimjim]

Our wonderful Government serving and protecting, perhaps it should read, Harrassing and intimidating!!!!!!!

[Jwood]

All they'd have to do is see the smoke and say they had probable cause, all I know is I'm sure any ticket/ citation from the EPA would be a lot of moneyi

[browncty]

I doubt they will go after people most state environmental agencies I have worked with will not go after anyone who dumps a barrel of oil on the ground unless you are talking about much more than 55 gallons. The EPA wants the big fish and home owner burning wood in a coal burner is not enough good press. I work for a City and it will be in my experience it will be some local official who read something on Google and then get a compliant from a adjacent home owner and will call the DNR OR EPA that's how they will get them involved. The EPA Regional Offices are in large cities throughout the U.S. so they will not want to leave the comfy cubicle to head to the country unless its on vacation. 

[Jwood]

As a matter of fact do go after people here in MN for dumping a home owner got caught a few years ago and had to bring an excavator in and dig all the dirt out pay to have it hauled away until the EPA was satisfied. Generally they will go after the big fish but if they have enough reason they will go after anyone.

[browncty]

Someone in MN was looking to climb the ladder in the organization. I've seen nubie regulators do this. I don't known the MN story but believe it could happen there, my experience was in Texas maybe they thought it could be re pumped out of the ground after the soil filtered it

[AirForcePOL]

Some agencies only need probable cause, I'm not sure wit the EPA though.  They wouldn't be searching inside personal property.  It would be obvious once they walked up.   There's also a rumor that law enforcement officers need a warrant to search a vehicle.  WRONG!!!

[ST98]

Plain view doctorine, if it's in plain view it's searchable but only the visible area around the plain view. If conducting plain view search and you see something else in plain view and so on.  It would a be a stretch to say inside the curdalidge fence is off limits if smoke is visible.

Every state is somewhat different but case law is pretty good on the fourth amendment.

Opening the door of the burner could be trickier.

The EPA usually provides the funding to states to enforce clean air. The clean air person in my area used to work for me.  He also ensured I could legally get around my states regs, key word LEGALLY! 

That being said our air people act on complaints only and don't patrol.