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Author Topic: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?  (Read 3557 times)

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I noticed on my temp gauge in the basement that it is 5 degrees less than the stove gauge after we have a extremely heavy rain. Before the rain I wasn't loosing any heat on the pex. All I can think is the saturated soil may be taking some heat from the lines. I used eze double walled tiled triple wrapped pex and the stove is 65ft from the house.
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2013, 07:59:58 AM »

With a double tile it shouldn't matter much......  You should still have an air space around the first tile to protect it from wicking heat off, 5 degrees in 65 ft is a LOT
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2013, 08:01:51 AM »

The temp gauge is right before the pex heads back out to the stove so maybe that's why.
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2013, 08:06:07 AM »

Is there a lot of uninsulated pex inside? 

Are both gauges the same and installed the same way? 
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 08:09:05 AM »

About 200ft uninsulated running back and forth.  Yes they are mounted the same.
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 08:13:52 AM »

That's where it's going then...  200 ft is a lot
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 08:23:35 AM »

vic6, if possible please post a close pic or 2 of your thermometer setup, I am trying to figure out how to plumb that in my lines in the basement, thanks.
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2013, 09:24:42 AM »

http://www.pexsupply.com/Cash-Acme-22775-Sharkbite-Temperature-Gauge-with-1-Tee

Check those out...  Can't get much easier than that
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 10:14:06 AM »

Mud sucks heat out of the pex, I have the CB insulated pex and notice a big difference wet ground vs dry
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2013, 03:28:40 PM »

Mud sucks heat out of the pex, I have the CB insulated pex and notice a big difference wet ground vs dry


I just checked my temps and now its right on like it was before the monsoon.
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Re: Can wet/saturated soil rob some heat from my underground pex?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 06:09:42 AM »

I noticed on my temp gauge in the basement that it is 5 degrees less than the stove gauge after we have a extremely heavy rain. Before the rain I wasn't loosing any heat on the pex. All I can think is the saturated soil may be taking some heat from the lines. I used eze double walled tiled triple wrapped pex and the stove is 65ft from the house.
                                                                                            Yes certainly if there is any way for water to get to the pex underground pipe then you will be heating your neighbors well water, if you have any place where a junction is underground, a hole in the protective cover or even just the ends of the pipe exposed where water can get inside you may as well dig it up and replace it with either my competitors pipe Central Bolier or the pipe I promote which is Urecon. I like the urecon because of 1 thicker outside black plastic, 2 smart membrane to stop foam from gassing off, 3 urecon is measured from inside diameter( 1 inch inside diameter not .82 inches as with nominally measured pipe)My suggestion to all of you is don't cheap out on the pipe, it is more expensive to change out the pipe than to do it right the first time        Richard
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