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[automan77]

I'm gonna be doing my own install and need some input on pump location.  Is it better to install in my basement or at the boiler?

[willieG]

not sure if it matters or not, but i put mine in the basement 11 years ago...figured when it burns out it will be  on the coldest night of the year so i have my replacement ont the shelf right beside it...i will be able to stay warm and dry when i do have to replace it!

[automan77]

Ya thats what I was thinking to. Do those pumps make any noise when there running? can you hear the water circulating thru the lines?

[willieG]

if you are in the same room you may here it but not if you are not in the room with it. I would say they are pretty quiet. mine is in my furnace room and i would say i hear the furnace blower and not the pump

[Scott7m]

The pumps I've primarily used the past 2 seasons are darn near silent, you literally have to hold your ear up to them.....

If you install n the stove and it does go out in mid winter, it still only takes maybe 4-5 minutes to switch if it's installed properly

[automan77]

I might be just as easy to change it at the boiler. wont have to worry about making a mess in the basement

[Scott7m]

I might be just a easy to change it at the boiler. wont have to worry about making a mess in the basement

There won't be no mess inside either if it's installed properly, just use isolater flanges, they have ball valves built into the flange and you can close them and change the pump and barely get your hands damp

[automan77]

thanks for that info I might install it indoors. I hope it goes good I dont do much plumbing work. I'm sure menards of home depot will help me out with the correct fittings i need.

[willieG]

i have ball valves on both sides of every "appliance" and  the main pump

i run all my "appliances"  of fa feed and return header and can isolate any one "appliance" at any given time. you guys that run things in series and don't have by passes..what will you do when one "appliance" plugs up or springs a leak, you will have to shut the whole system down to fix one thing.

what will you do if you pump into a side arm and then to your furnace and then to maybe a baseboard heater and all of a sudden you find there is a leak in the side arm and your domestic water and OWB water are mixing together....you will have no heat in your home while you are working on the side arm. no matter if you use a header system or everything in series you should have by passes on everything as far as i am concerned

and if you have your pump in the basement you should valves on both sides of it as well ,so if you have to replace it you can shut it off and not lose any water out of the lines

[Scott7m]

thanks for that info I might install it indoors. I hope it goes good I dont do much plumbing work. I'm sure menards of home depot will help me out with the correct fittings i need.

They don't even carry those things....  You'll have to get those from a plumbing supply house or a dealer. 

The folks at home depot wouldn't even know what you were talking about, I can email you some links of the ones you need if you pm me your email addy or something... 

It's super easy to install this thing where it's to complicated and possibly a thorn in your side all the time, I think you said you were using logstor which is a great choice, but the other components need to match and be installed correctly, it's not hard at all but there is little tricks I've learned installing these that are lifesavers

[willieG]

putting your pump in the basement, i would suggest a hose bib at the boiler so you can hook a garden hose to it and push the air out of the system

[Scott7m]

That's all good Willie, all things we offer to do as dealers but extremely rarely does the customer want to pay for thr extra plumbing, I always isolate the pumps though. 

Installing your own as a DIY project and understanding thesystem is far different from a job out in thr field, there your under time constraints and working for someone else under a tight budget lol.


Today was an example, had a guy come by who was gonna run multiple loops off of one pump, no zone valves, just t's, he couldn't understand why he needed to isolate the pump or do anything correctly, he was like, "you mean to tell me you don't think water will flow through a t". I gave up, took his money and went on about my day...  What can you do when the guy who is asking you questions already has all the answers

[willieG]

i like to think...what can go wrong will evenutally go wrong...so lets make it fixable now  while we are building it, so it is not a hassle later.

i guess there are alot of folks out there that figure they dont have the funds at the time but i thought of it a preventitive plan when installing them all

[Scott7m]

i like to think...what can go wrong will evenutally go wrong...so lets make it fixable now  while we are building it, so it is not a hassle later.

i guess there are alot of folks out there that figure they dont have the funds at the time but i thought of it a preventitive plan when installing them all

Yep.  That's the difference in a lot of folks, some just wanna get it working as fast as possible.  As to where you think down the road, that's a rare thing these days

Also, as a dealer, if I start saying things like we can install a bypass here in case this fails, they start panicking and think I'm selling junk and there gonna have to work on it all the time, therefore I just try to use the best components my customers can afford and go from there.  Thankfully, I've had very few issues and a lot of happy folks

[willieG]

i can understand your situation...like when i buy something and they try and talk me into the extended warranty...i tell them if they think i need the extra warranty they must either think the thing is gonna break down OR they think it wont and try ing to get some extra cash from me..either way i tell them if you think i need that, you keep it and i will shop down the street..lol