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Title: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Bluegrass Wood Burner on November 17, 2017, 04:40:44 PM
In your honest opinions, is the higher priced name brand oils that much better. Especially bar oil at half the price at Rural King than major brands. Is the stihl and husky 2 cycle oils that much better?
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: mlappin on November 17, 2017, 05:08:53 PM
All I’ll use is Stihl bar oil and two stroke oil. Dad’s bought Tractor Supply stuff before, you could definitely tell it’s thinner.

Strangely enough, just had the woods logged, I couldn’t hardly believe it but the loggers were using old engine oil mixed with STP for bar/chain lube.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Roger2561 on November 17, 2017, 05:39:45 PM
When I bought my Stihl MS311, if I purchased their 2-stroke engine oil the warranty on the engine went from 2 years to 4 years.  As for it being better, I have no idea and I'm not taking any chances.  Roger   
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Bluegrass Wood Burner on November 17, 2017, 05:53:09 PM
My big saw is a Husqvarna and I have a lot of trouble with the oiler stopping up on it. You think I could poor some of the eve tone and ATF mixture in there and swish it around a little and pour it out that it would be a good way of cleaning the oil tank. Or if you have other suggestions I would sure entertain them.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: BoilerHouse on November 17, 2017, 06:51:25 PM
I use Stihl 2 stroke oil for my 25 y.o. 032. They recommend it, so I use it.  However, I do not use Stihl bar oil. I go through a chain every couple years = 18 cords.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: MattyNH on November 17, 2017, 07:43:57 PM
I use what what pro's use..TruSouth, Quaker State, Husqvarna..Far as the bar oil..I use what pros use as well..I also have used tractor supply and have used supertec (walmart)..For you guys that live in NH and Western Maine..Best place and priced to buy chains for all makes, bars, bar and chain oil and 2 stroke oils, anything logging is Windy Ridge Corporation in Tamworth..It where I buy all my stuff..My last chain I bought was $14 for Jonsered 2165 18 inch bar..
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Roscoe on November 18, 2017, 02:39:35 AM
For 2 cycle I primarily use MAG1 but have used others. All mixed at 4oz. oil to 1 gallon of gas. In 30 years and 5 different brands of saws Ive never blown one up or had any engine problems.
For bar oil I use Husqvarna, Stihl, or Jonsered in the summer and the cheap stuff in the winter. There is defiantly a difference. 
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: artbaldoni on November 18, 2017, 05:12:35 AM
I use whatever 2 cycle I find on sale and have been know to mix my TSC bar oil with used motor oil. Been doing it that way for 30 years. Never had any problems.
The only time I worry about oil brand is in my wet clutch motorcycles. Nothing worse than friction modifiers on a clutch...
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Bluegrass Wood Burner on November 18, 2017, 09:03:23 AM
Roscoe do you feel the cheap bar oil flows better in cold temps? Is that why the switch up? I use the stihl oil blue and red. One in winter the other in the summer. I been working on the big saw this morning and found the hole in the bar that lets oil get to the chain was stopped up with something. Never did figure out what it was and it wasn't easy to get cleaned out. Finally blew out with air compressor after soaking in penetrating oil for a while and using small nails and wires to poke at it. Oiling perfect now.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: wreckit87 on November 18, 2017, 09:28:42 AM
Always use Stihl 2 stroke oil. In talking to the local Stihl dealer, I was informed that 95% of the burned engines that come through his shop were using something other than Stihl oil. As far as bar oil, I use whatever is cheap. Never had any issues except for the Fleet Farm brand whatever it's called, that crap was like water
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: E Yoder on November 18, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
I've got a stihl 390 that's not oiling. Blew it out with air. The plastic screw that runs the oiler looks OK... I'm stumped.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: benp on November 18, 2017, 02:40:05 PM
I primarily run Save a Chain 30wt bar oil all year. Sometimes Cenex bar oil when I can get it. I really like that stuff.

Saw gas is Amsoil Sabre 32/1 in 110 race fuel because all of the saws except 1 are far from stock. The 510 Dolmar (stock) eats anything.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: benp on November 18, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
I've got a stihl 390 that's not oiling. Blew it out with air. The plastic screw that runs the oiler looks OK... I'm stumped.

I would check that filter on the end of the hose in the oil tank then take the bar off and make sure the driver groove and oiler orifice are spic and span.

Then next culprit to me would be actual oiler assembly itself.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Roscoe on November 18, 2017, 03:14:36 PM
Roscoe do you feel the cheap bar oil flows better in cold temps? Is that why the switch up? I use the stihl oil blue and red. One in winter the other in the summer. I been working on the big saw this morning and found the hole in the bar that lets oil get to the chain was stopped up with something. Never did figure out what it was and it wasn't easy to get cleaned out. Finally blew out with air compressor after soaking in penetrating oil for a while and using small nails and wires to poke at it. Oiling perfect now.

Yeah you are correct Bluegrass. Primarily for start up in cold weather. After the power head gets hot you can run the good stuff

I've got a stihl 390 that's not oiling. Blew it out with air. The plastic screw that runs the oiler looks OK... I'm stumped.


Is this a thread about oil choices or saw repair???????? 
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Bluegrass Wood Burner on November 18, 2017, 04:53:03 PM
Guess I'm to blame for that. My last message I talked about using the stihl oil and then I talked about how my bar was gummed up. Guess the two go together in that respect. That lets me know the other post on here that said he uses the cheap stuff and has been for 30 years without any problems is giving me options on my bar oil.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: E Yoder on November 18, 2017, 06:11:32 PM
Sorry , my bad. I didn't think.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: mlappin on November 19, 2017, 06:07:27 AM
I’ve had to repair my 460 for lack of oiling, not much to the Stihl oilers, not saying they are junk or anything, but after actually having them apart I run the Blue winter grade from Stihl when its cold and the regular Orange jug once it warms up.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Pointblank on November 19, 2017, 06:25:01 AM
I’ve had to repair my 460 for lack of oiling, not much to the Stihl oilers, not saying they are junk or anything, but after actually having them apart I run the Blue winter grade from Stihl when its cold and the regular Orange jug once it warms up.

That's what I use also. Summer bar oils get really thick here in sub zero temps. I use Stihl winter blue in the winter and orange in the summer.  I use Stihl premium 2 cycle oil in the gas. 200+ cord ran through my 440 now and runs as good as new and the bar is in excellent shape. It costs a bit more, but for what little of the stuff you use in a season the cost is minimum.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Bluegrass Wood Burner on November 19, 2017, 08:13:23 AM
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Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Roscoe on November 20, 2017, 08:10:52 AM
Always use Stihl 2 stroke oil. In talking to the local Stihl dealer, I was informed that 95% of the burned engines that come through his shop were using something other than Stihl oil. As far as bar oil, I use whatever is cheap. Never had any issues except for the Fleet Farm brand whatever it's called, that crap was like water

A dealer should know that engines don't burn down because of the brand of oil used. They burn down due to operator error.... wrong ratio, running a Castor oil blend in cold weather, bad gas etc.......
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: coonsrich@yahoo.com on November 20, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
Please never use used engine oil for chain oil >:( It has so many impurities it will eat through the aluminum case in about 4-5 years. My Dad did this a few year ago. I always use Stihl 2 cycle and TSC bar oil, no problems in 30 years.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: Jon_E on November 21, 2017, 10:50:02 AM
I use nothing but Tractor Supply bar oil ($6 a gallon on sale) and have done so for years.  Got tired of paying two to three times the price for Stihl oil with no noticeable difference.

I don't use 2-cycle oil.  I buy either TruFuel or VP Racing SEF 94 premix.  I get the VP Racing stuff from my dealer for $85 for a 5-gallon pail and it lasts me a full year in all of my 2-stroke equipment, summer and winter.  In the five years I've been using it, I have had zero problems and no repairs needed to gas lines, filters, carbs or anything else.  Cheap insurance, considering that a new carb and labor is $100+.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: BIG AL on November 23, 2017, 07:52:17 PM
I bought a case of the Cenex bar oil on ebay it is really good. As far as 2 stroke I only use the full synthetic I won't run cheap stuff in my saws.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: silver star on December 16, 2017, 03:32:17 PM
I was running Poulon Pro, after buying it from a coworker who operates a family small engine operation on the side.  Ran out and while wife was at the Stihl dealer getting me a replacement fuel cap (Spent more time looking for that dang cap in the leaves that the chore i did)  she got an orange bottle of bar oil.

I saw a drastic difference in the heat on my bar with the Stihl. Going back to the Poulon and will keep the orange as a back up.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: KevinKD on February 04, 2018, 10:20:02 PM
I run Quicksilver full synthetic 2 stoke oil, I buy multiple gallons a year for my Mercury boat motor. Since I always have it on hand it's what I use. As a bonus it's a pretty decent price at your local Walmart. For bar oil I had been running echo brand and liked it a lot. However I was in a pinch and just finished my last gallon of echo so I stopped at the gas station and bought what they had something called service pro winter grade. It seems fine but I really liked the echo stuff and the kicker is it's cheaper then the gas station stuff. If I member correctly it was $8 a gallon for echo bar and chain oil all season from the Home Depot.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: bill birks on February 08, 2018, 07:06:25 AM
My big saw is a Husqvarna and I have a lot of trouble with the oiler stopping up on it. You think I could poor some of the eve tone and ATF mixture in there and swish it around a little and pour it out that it would be a good way of cleaning the oil tank. Or if you have other suggestions I would sure entertain them.
Title: Re: Chainsaw oils both bar and 2cycle
Post by: bill birks on February 08, 2018, 07:15:13 AM
 SMALL ENGINE MECHANIC FOR 30YEARS -CLEANING OIL TANK- I USING DUMP OLD OUT AND FLUSH WITHCARB CLEANER THEN BLOW OUT WITH AIR- WHEN CHAIN GETS DULL YOU GET FINE DUST AROUND CAP - JUST TRY TO CLEANED BEFORE REMOVING CAP-ANY NAME BRAND OIL IS FINE-CHEAP STUFF WILL JUST FLY OFF- IF CAN HELF WITH ANY THING JUST ASK