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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 07, 2020, 11:02:34 AM »
No conspiracy about it Jonathan, not funny either! He searched me out because the rest of you dealers and HeatMaster couldn’t or wouldn’t answer his questions. The model he has is before yours so I wouldn’t expect you to know anything about it but the Yoders certainly do and I do. It was junk before they built it, lousy design!
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 07, 2020, 03:05:27 AM »
Well Marty, he called me yesterday and will be holding off until he speaks with Wally again to see how they will be handling the situation, I sincerely hope they do right by him!
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 06, 2020, 12:26:13 PM »
Well there we have it folks, the three biggest dealers and advocates of HeatMaster have spoken, no resolve yet, nope not even an admission of an issue that they all know exists, bible verses used to attempt to insult me, facts hidden, customers blamed for design defects. I sure hope your God can find the strength to forgive you for your blatant misuse of his book.
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 06, 2020, 04:19:30 AM »
I gather Shepard boy that you think it’s foolish of me to state facts, funny how some folks use religion to hide behind, yea, Jake did that as well!
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 03:28:24 PM »
Sooo, now that it’s been attempted to divert attention away from the subject as it usually is whenever a problem HeatMaster boiler comes into the spotlight, direct question Marty, is good old Truthful Jake going to make things right here?
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 03:24:59 PM »
You are correct sir, that was the boiler and let me try to explain in simple terms. I’m not sure where you got the idea that any water flowed uphill, that sir would be a miracle in itself. The case was a very poor installation where the outer jacket fell a few feet short of the foundation so the pex was left unprotected, water flowed down the hill and against the foundation where the uninsulated pex entered the foundation. We shot the concrete wall and found 110 degree f temps for about 4 feet around those pipes. When Andrew dug the new ditch, it was a few feet uphill from the old pipe which then led down and away from the poor pipe and drained into his perimeter drains which allowed the pipe to dry out. That’s not so hard to understand is it?
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 02:42:39 PM »
Of course there wasn’t, the new ditch diverted the water away from the pipe, come on Marty, do you think that hole was there when we went to work on the boiler?
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 02:24:34 PM »
Was that all that you found Marty, the hole on the intake air was less than the size of a dime and yes, it was on the intake side which woul simply be allowing more air, kind of like the rotted out airboxes we dealt with from your supplier, the boiler ran fine! In fact I have spoken with the guy that bought that particular boiler and he’s very happy, come on Marty, you saw the drainage ditch, you know it was to divert water from his junk pipe and botched install but you chose not to show the facts to attempt to make me look bad.
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 01:58:10 PM »
History lesson for you Marty, the design that he has should never have been sold to him because the flat rectangular bypass was VERY prone to warping and leaking, this caused an incomplete burn as well as overheating of the fan and high stack temp losses, the next design was a round chamfered edge plate that fit int a machined piece of pipe, it worked awesome until they cheapened that design to a rolled receiver and lighter plate, then they decided to save money on the airboxes that I had so much trouble with and eventually got so fed up with the lies and money their service calls cost me, I quit! As far as you commenting, I’ve never said you shouldn’t comment, I have said that there should be more moderators that are not tied to any particular manufacturer as you certainly are and they should have veto power over your decisions to ban guys like me who want facts good or bad to be brought into the light and solved. I have nothing against you, Eldon, RSI or any of the dealers for them and certainly understand your dislike of me and the knowledge I posses of their product, it’s just to bad that you don’t seem to understand their faults and don’t want them held responsible! Next time you talk to good old Jake, tell him I’m still around and wanted to say hello! Oh and by the way, thanks for all the help and truthful posts with Dylan on Andrews boiler, that sure showed your true colors!
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 11:57:51 AM »
What’s sad is that they sold a boiler with known issues at the smoke bypass and blamed it on the customer, I sure hope they do the right thing and replace the boiler with a current unit as well as an apology for accusing the customer of causing the issues!
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 05, 2020, 04:27:54 AM »
Sooo, it seems the two major dealers for HeatMaster no longer wish to comment on this problem HeatMaster, sweep it under the rug instead of answeringthe direct questions.
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: January 02, 2020, 10:38:25 AM »
Question to Marty and Eldon, what would you folks think was a reasonable stack temp on this G 400?
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: December 31, 2019, 10:32:13 AM »
Just so that we are all aware, Eldon certainly knows of the issues with that model stove, I changed out one with the same issue in Pa on my way down to his dealer meeting years ago and he had another one there just like it that he had to cut holes through the front of to clean the air channels because they gummed up completely and there was no access to them. That stove should never have been sold before it was retrofitted.
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: December 31, 2019, 09:43:23 AM »
Very well said sir!
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HeatMaster / Re: G400 Metal deterioration
« on: December 30, 2019, 01:06:58 PM »
Why in the world would there be that much pitting in a stove that’s made with Titanium enhanced stainless steel in less than five years? Unless of course the factory perhaps made the same mistake with this one as they did with all those airboxes that rotted out on us because they mistakenly substituted mild steel for the Titanium enhanced stuff.