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Creosote Killer Powder?
« on: April 13, 2015, 04:39:00 PM »

I've heard a few whispers about a powder you can burn in your wood stove to help stop creosoting. How affective is it? How does it work. Info please.........
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2015, 05:40:37 PM »

This came up once before, I think it releases an acid when burned, I do remember seeing one of those creosote logs and in big bold print it said "DO NOT USE IN A CAMPFIRE OR FOR COOKING"
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2015, 06:46:38 PM »

That reminds me, I bought some from Scottm a couple years ago, guess I should track it down for next year.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 12:07:03 AM »

Yes it does release a acid.  I would not use this in your boiler.  Like others have suggested save your cardboard.  Just before shutting down, keep packing the cardboard to get temps hot enough for the creosote to burn off.  I have tried this and works wonders.   Saves time on trying to scrape it from inside the burn chamber.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 03:48:48 AM »

^^ what he said. I've heard of people throwing rock salt into their fire and it's suppose to help eliminate it. That maybe okay for fire places and such but I don't want anything added that may attack my boiler steel.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 04:31:29 AM »

Yes it does release a acid.  I would not use this in your boiler.  Like others have suggested save your cardboard.  Just before shutting down, keep packing the cardboard to get temps hot enough for the creosote to burn off.  I have tried this and works wonders.   Saves time on trying to scrape it from inside the burn chamber.

I've read many posts where people have used cardboard in their conventional boilers to burn off the creosote buildup but I wonder how it would work on a gasser?  My best guess is to let the water cool substantially, start a cardboard fire and get her roaring and keep it roaring until one is satisfied with the results.  I'm guessing that the by-pass door should remain open the during the entire burn.  But, I'm concerned that may injure the gasket surrounding the by-pass door.  Does anyone who has a gasser have any experiences they are willing to share; what works, what doesn't?  Thanks, Roger   
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2015, 04:34:45 AM »

I think you are right Roger, you may warp your bypass door as well, I wouldn't suggest it on your gasser.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2015, 04:52:37 AM »

I have a Empyre Pro 400 and Empyre has the Pro Forma that they sell to reduce creosote.  I use it everyday and I still get creosote.  Not sure if it would be worse without it.  I am not sure what is in it.  Someone last year was going to take it into there work and do an analysis on it but never heard what they came up with.  I think it has silica in it.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2015, 06:29:44 AM »

I rip up old pallets for that one last hot burn, I've also used seed corn bags in the past as well.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 07:22:29 PM »

The chimney brush will out due the powder and cheaper
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 09:17:10 PM »

I wanna get this straight. I don't have to brush my Heatmaster. I was just curious about the creosote powder. Thanks for clearing it up though.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2015, 10:43:44 AM »

Throw your potato peels in the boiler.

Used that for years on indoor wood stove and had no issues with creosote.
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 09:14:12 AM »

Thats a lotta carbohydrates :o

and i'm watching my girlish figure 8)
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2015, 05:32:16 AM »

Throw your potato peels in the boiler.

Used that for years on indoor wood stove and had no issues with creosote.

give up Instant Potatoes?? LOL
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Re: Creosote Killer Powder?
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2015, 09:28:07 AM »

repost >> 6. I made my own creosote destroyer by using all the MMDS sheets I could come up.... what  seems.... the main ingredient is ag lime the kind u farmers use …and NOT the type the masons use …add 1/3 baking soda to 2 parts ag lime and mix I got my lime at a feed store and the baking soda at sams club …  I mod'ed this mix by adding a 1lb box of tsp to this ...it works ..for me , I did 3 cardboard burns this spring ...she looks good to me ...my .02