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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2014, 08:50:19 PM »

Hate that folks are having this issue but am excited to see folks coming together to try to fix this issue

my thoughts on it are it is likely possible to have a coating stop corrosion, but that doesn't cure how the trapped gases stay in there which isnt good and in time will cause creosote to form in there, but perhaps we can make it manageable
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2014, 09:48:11 PM »

I wish we all had more knowledge of that particular boiler but I agree Scott we should be able to come together and hopefully figure something out :thumbup:
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2014, 04:44:40 AM »

It is not just that boiler and it is high time that the industry works together to solve the problem, let's  look at this one to start and then adapt it to any stove facing the issue. Scott can we get the attention of corporate to the thread and get some feedback as to what their solution might be? pictures of the new mount and where it goes might help, I think for now that Jwood is on the right track with the coatings, as far as creosote building up there, that is simple, clean it with your normal cleaning cycle, a product that I like to use for cleaning smoke and creosote that does not damage paint is Spray 9 fireplace glass cleaner, spray it on and wipe it off and it is about $9 per bottle at your local hardware store or stove shop.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2014, 05:19:35 AM »

Here is the new plate and parts they send, I stole it from Spyders Post. It makes a lot more sense looking at how it goes when you see belknaps pictures.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2014, 05:25:52 AM »

OK so this screws onto the existing air inlet tube and then the blower mounts to it? Scott go out in the barn and see the soft rubber plug used as a moisture drain on the bottom of the air filter on your diesel tractor, could this not be used as a drain for the airbox?
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2014, 06:16:52 AM »

Not sure

im sure someone from pro fab is reading along as nearly all manufacturers do..

I can see if they have any input but I think youll hear mount the kit and do a routine cleaning


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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2014, 06:34:27 AM »

What do you think about the drain idea?
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2014, 06:52:13 AM »

It seems as the air box has a really small drain hole in it from the factory. But its so small it gets plugged up with creososte really fast. I thought about taking a step bit and opening it up some. I really didn't think the air box was getting that much creosote in it or I would have cleaned it out way more often. The coating idea is a good one! Would you coat the inside or the outside of the box? The inside would be super hard to do and with all the gunk in it now wouldn't really work imho. I wish my yard wasn't all muddy so I could get my service truck close enough to blow air in the box to clean it better.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2014, 06:57:31 AM »

Could you spray the tube with the spray 9 product that i mentioned to clean it?
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2014, 07:29:55 AM »

It would be hard but I've got a pretty good product here that I'm testing.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2014, 08:12:50 AM »

The hole where the blower mounts is pretty big maybe 4" x 4".  I was able to get in there and clean it out.  My vertical tube was pretty well plugged.  The horizontal tubes weren't too bad.  I will  have to clean it a couple of times a season.  I sprayed mine good with the diesel hydraulic fluid mix and I looked pretty good.  Not too dirty.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2014, 08:33:35 AM »

Inside the box of course, yes it would have to be clean for the coatings to do there thing
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2014, 05:41:13 PM »

What are you guys cleaning your air tubes with?
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2014, 06:14:08 PM »

I use the cleaning tool for a drill.
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Re: Empyre 200 issues like others.
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2014, 06:30:43 PM »

For the ones that are already dirty maybe that Fluid Film would even possibly work?
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