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Plumbing / Re: should circulating pump be wired to run 24\7 or shut off and on?
« on: December 21, 2010, 10:21:32 AM »
All mine are on demand. i feel its less wood used. garage has 2 way switch to go 24/7 if needed.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 20, 2010, 11:57:53 AM »
I would keep trying to make improvements. There's probably more you could do to extend your burn time.
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Plumbing / Re: where to place "Y" strainers in piping system?
« on: December 20, 2010, 10:06:48 AM »I installed mine right before heat exchanger in horizontal also.
Why horizontal ?
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: A Few Thermostat and Efficiency Questions
« on: December 20, 2010, 09:53:39 AM »
I switched to a cheap digital thermostat. I wanted more control . It has four settings. Cost about $30.00
On at 5:15 am - 15 minutes before i get up 67* to 73*
Off at 6"00 am - leaving for work set back to 67*
On at 4:30 pm -15 minutes before wifey gets home. set to 73
off at 10:00 pm bedtime. set back to 67* for night
I think this helps burn less wood . We do this with our a/c units to use less electricity so i think it would be the same for our wood burners too.
On at 5:15 am - 15 minutes before i get up 67* to 73*
Off at 6"00 am - leaving for work set back to 67*
On at 4:30 pm -15 minutes before wifey gets home. set to 73
off at 10:00 pm bedtime. set back to 67* for night
I think this helps burn less wood . We do this with our a/c units to use less electricity so i think it would be the same for our wood burners too.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: For those with an "indoor" outdoor wood burner...
« on: December 20, 2010, 09:27:36 AM »
I just built a 24/32 ploe barn . Have 3 big doors and one walk out. Smokes not a big problem for the amount of time i open the door. If i'm going to have it open for more than a couple minutes i just open a couple doors.I have a ridge vent up top as well. Still like the exhaust fan idea though. Thanks for sharing. I just added that to my list .LOL . I was worried about this before I built the garage and the best i could come up with was a rod hanging down hooked to a small door in the roof. The fan idea is better.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 20, 2010, 07:44:33 AM »
I wouldn't run the water any higher than you need too. Simply just wasting wood .I'm running water at 146* and off at 148*. You might want to try a programable thermostat to lower temp at night and while your away. Switching pumps to run on demand I believe is a big help. If the door is leaking try a shim and make sure its clean and no junk is in the track. Try a little silicone around the edges too.You should be able to seal it up without replacing it.
I say this because last year I was burning locust ,oak cherry and only making it 12 hours or so .Always worring a little that it wouldn't be ok after a 12hour shift. This year i can go way over 24 hours between fills and i haven't used a stick of locust yet. It s been in the high teens and low 20's at night here. Burning 90% pine and a little maple. Keep playing with it there might be more for you.
I say this because last year I was burning locust ,oak cherry and only making it 12 hours or so .Always worring a little that it wouldn't be ok after a 12hour shift. This year i can go way over 24 hours between fills and i haven't used a stick of locust yet. It s been in the high teens and low 20's at night here. Burning 90% pine and a little maple. Keep playing with it there might be more for you.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 18, 2010, 08:39:26 AM »
When you sit down and order a Shaver those options are available. I'm telling you people still dont want them even after seeing mine and i have the parts for them to look at and touch .Still say they will deal with them later. Just dont have the extra cash at the time. The fan comes with a slide damper flap . You can set it and adjust as you need too. Some people are around enough to make this work.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 16, 2010, 10:42:06 PM »
Well I dont have the room for it now anyway . Still plan on trying it someday though. Windwalker has been doing this for a while now with good results. I guess you gotta get the spring tension right.I'm inside a buiding now so wind shouldn't affect me now. It would be nice to get rid of the selenoid. When mine failed Shaver sent one out right away . I have since found a spare too.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 16, 2010, 09:32:10 PM »
Yoder , I totally disagree . I hear bad stuff about all kinds of products all the time . Doesn't make me not buy . If someone wants a furnace they can and will weed through the info and make their own choice . If Shaver is that bad your sales should be booming. Most of these problems are from people not installing them correctly. I know this from my own install. Now I'm making changes and things are working very good.
Briguy . My number is at the bottom of my posts . Feel free to call if you like for help .
Briguy . My number is at the bottom of my posts . Feel free to call if you like for help .
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 16, 2010, 09:19:35 PM »
Windwalker, I agree with willie , Cant ask for better help than that .
Willie that was a nice deed you did there. I always try to do the same .Its such a good feeling to be able to help somebody that is down and out . I truly believe it comes back to you .
As for what you said about the forum .Its sad its not regulated more to keep it as more of an information place instead of constant bashing that never stops. Look at the second post . Guy offers no help except to down the furnace . I have had the same problem with other forums too. Someone asks for help and they are bombarded with negative posts. We need to focus on helping people . I explain the upgades to each customer and not everybody wants them. Its thier choice. They can do them later if they want . Some people still want the simple design and no parts to fail someday at the worst possible time. I am one of those people. Sometimes less is better. I like the ranco and the flapper /selenoid too but was very skeptical about doing them due to the possibility of failure of the parts. Guess what ,, The selenoid went bad already . No spare at the time so a little bit of a hassel for a few days. I'm going to change to windwalkers simpler way (dryer vent air flapper ) as soon as i can make some room for it. Remember everybody is different and just because you dont like something doesn't mean it wont work for someone else.
Willie that was a nice deed you did there. I always try to do the same .Its such a good feeling to be able to help somebody that is down and out . I truly believe it comes back to you .
As for what you said about the forum .Its sad its not regulated more to keep it as more of an information place instead of constant bashing that never stops. Look at the second post . Guy offers no help except to down the furnace . I have had the same problem with other forums too. Someone asks for help and they are bombarded with negative posts. We need to focus on helping people . I explain the upgades to each customer and not everybody wants them. Its thier choice. They can do them later if they want . Some people still want the simple design and no parts to fail someday at the worst possible time. I am one of those people. Sometimes less is better. I like the ranco and the flapper /selenoid too but was very skeptical about doing them due to the possibility of failure of the parts. Guess what ,, The selenoid went bad already . No spare at the time so a little bit of a hassel for a few days. I'm going to change to windwalkers simpler way (dryer vent air flapper ) as soon as i can make some room for it. Remember everybody is different and just because you dont like something doesn't mean it wont work for someone else.
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General Outdoor Furnace Discussion / Re: Cloths dryer conversion
« on: December 08, 2010, 06:50:58 PM »
I ran into this site. I bought a used dryer to experiment on awile back. Haven't got the time yet.. Cant take the chance of messin up the wifes dryer. Here s one ready for the small sum of 850.00
http://www.outdoorwoodfurnaceparts.com/products.php?cat=18
http://www.outdoorwoodfurnaceparts.com/products.php?cat=18
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 08, 2010, 04:27:40 AM »
Thanks Willie. How much will it change @ 150* ?
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 07, 2010, 08:22:23 PM »
Not sure .I"ve only been set up this way for a week now . Wasn't sure if it would work so Thats why i went with a switch to go back to 24/7 at the shop. House is perfect with on demand and has been that way since install last year. What i was afraid of with the shop was water sitting so long that it would cool and when starting up would overwhelm the boiler . So far so good .
No air locks yet but who knows with time.
I was wondering , Do you know how many ft of 1" pex it will take to make 1 gallon of water ?
No air locks yet but who knows with time.
I was wondering , Do you know how many ft of 1" pex it will take to make 1 gallon of water ?
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 07, 2010, 07:51:25 PM »
I run dhw in both house and shop. Two seperate pumps and water coils in boiler. Both run on demand.Works very well. Almost endless hot water. I couldn't ask for any better set up other than maybe a ranco instead of the disc style. No need to run 24/7.
I had heard it was easier on the pump to run on demand than 24/7 . It never made sense to me . I would think what you said would be true.
I had heard it was easier on the pump to run on demand than 24/7 . It never made sense to me . I would think what you said would be true.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 07, 2010, 06:38:49 PM »
Well that was just for my house.If i spent 12.00 /ft back then it would have been over 7,000 for just the pipe. I just couldn't swing that much then .I must be ok for now because I'm getting good burn times now. I did a few things recently though. Built garage around stove,ranco thermostat at boiler and in garage Hx, and changed garage to on demand. So maybe It is all of this combined making the difference.
