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[roxann]

honda everything is new

[hondaracer2oo4]

Well we really need to know what the temps are through the system as they enter the home, enter the hx and return back to the boiler to ensure that the supply side of the system is feeding the correct temps. If the temps are good then there is a problem on the house side of the system. Could be that whoever installed the heating system in the house did not do a correct Manual J calculation which is what determines the required amount of BTUs needed to heat the home. This is a forced hot water baseboard system correct? I know I mentioned this before but if the temps from the boiler outside aren't transferring into the home and giving you 170+ degrees then your baseboard radiators will put out very few BTUs and wont be able to keep up with the heat load even though there is the correct number of feet of baseboard within in the home.

[slimjim]

The problem that we addressed so far has been the boiler itself, we may need to install temp guages but at this point there is the problem of shutting it down long enough to do any improvements, it is so far doing it's job, there seems to be decent return temps

[hondaracer2oo4]

What improvements are you looking to do that you will need to shut it down for? If the supply and return temps are good, what about on the house side? Sounds like there is not enough feet of baseboard in the house possibly.

[slimjim]

Exactly, there are currently only 2 zones that are running pretty much constant.

[hondaracer2oo4]

Who installed the in house system Roxann? I would have them back and question how they figured the BTU load and have them explain why their installation can not keep up. I can only assume they are going to point straight to your owb and tell you that is the problem but won't 'Know why'. So you need to get that all squared away first and make sure that the stove is delivering the BTU's to the house.

[slimjim]

For what she has in the installation, her friend and neighbor did a nice job with the short time that he had to do it, some minor additions will help immensely.

[hondaracer2oo4]

So it sounds like a friend installed the baseboard? I think it would be worth the money to have a guy that is reputable come in and do the calculations for the home and each rooms required baseboard. Then the friend can finish up where it needs the additional btus.

[willieG]

So it sounds like a friend installed the baseboard? I think it would be worth the money to have a guy that is reputable come in and do the calculations for the home and each rooms required baseboard. Then the friend can finish up where it needs the additional btus.

3/4 slant fin  baseboards will deliver @ 1 GPM at 170 degree water about 510 btu per linear foot of basebaord. depending on your btu estimate for each room by square footage and insulation value and location (unless  you have had a heat loss calculation done on your house) you should be able to estimate how many feet of baseboard you will require.

the more footage of baseboard on a 'loop" will require more gpm to ensure the hot  water delivery temp reamins high enough to produce the btu output required

[wissel12]

Here is Menards calculations on figuring how much baseboard you need per room.





http://www.menards.com/main/store/20090519001/items/media/Plumbing/BeaconMorris/Prod_Tech_Spec/Baseboardemitters.pdf

[roxann]

I am soooo fed up with this damn furnace I hate it hate it hate it
temp on unit is 181 blower off and house is 60 cold and miserable
I do as asked clean this clean that fix this fixed that dry wood seasoned wood green wood  fill box front to back or side to side crap don't matter blah blah blah
It's bullcrap one day its warm as hell next is cold  I am so done  it's to stressful dirty and smelly

[hondaracer2oo4]

Roxann, I believe the issues with the boiler have been rectified. I now believe that the issues are with your indoor system. What are the temperature differences outside when you say that one day the house is able to warm to 70 degrees and another it can only reach 60? Last night was COLD and so was the night before. Slim said that a friend installed the baseboard correct? Any idea if he just decided to run baseboard here, there and where ever and for however many feet or did he actually do what is required and calculate the manual j for the heat load requirements? The indoor baseboard needs to be assessed by someone that is knowledgeable in the  trade and will be able to take temp measurements and diagnose where the issue is. If you put in an indoor oil or gas boiler with your current baseboard set up it would also only be able to keep your house at 60 on these cold days.

[ITO]

 Slim is there a chance the HX is plugged (and needs back flushing) and the heat in the boiler is not transferring to the indoor system?

[slimjim]

 No there is some but minimal heat loss in the underground piping and a lack of enough radiation in the home

[hondaracer2oo4]

Have you been able to convey the fact of not enough baseboard in the house to roxann?