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Shaver Furnace / Re: Any Satisified Shaver Owners ??
« on: December 16, 2010, 06:58:39 PM »
3rd year with my 165.
I love it!
Did several mods. They were cheap and easy to do and totally transformed the 165.
I liked tinkering with it.
I love it!
Did several mods. They were cheap and easy to do and totally transformed the 165.
I liked tinkering with it.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 16, 2010, 06:56:06 PM »
briguy,
I sent you a PM
I sent you a PM
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Shaver Furnace / Re: HELP! I hate my SHAVER!
« on: December 16, 2010, 06:52:01 PM »
There are several cheap/easy mods to improve the Shaver's performance Here are mine
My Flapper blower mod
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=110817&highlight=
I put a double wall chimney pipe over the original flue pipe. You will need to make the hole in the roof bigger then reseal. Here it is
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(alslozy1x5lpdx55wmktsxit)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=45065&&SessionExpired=True
I replaced the thermostat with a Ranco. This is a must do for the Shaver. Allows precise on/off of the blower within the temps you want. Also has a readout of waer temp.
http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?644-Ranco-ETC-111000-000-120V-Wiring-Guide
You will need to put a dry well in the OWB for the probe of the Ranco. I made a drywell out of a 14" piece of 1/4" copper tubing. I soldiered a cap on one end and a 1/4 to 3/8 coupler on the other. You will need to drill a hole in the top of the water jacket. Insert the well you made. the coupler will prevent it from falling into water jacket. seal it with hi-temp silicone. Insert Ranco probe.
Other things I did.
Slid foil face foam under the OWB
Filled the attic of the OWB with unfaced insulation after the flue mod
Fill the inside of the back door of OWB with unfaced insulation
Also stuffed unfaced insulation inside the firebox door. Just stuff it in between the door and that shield. It will need replaced yearly.
With these easy mods you will transform the Shaver into a much more efficient OWB. The mods are cheap and easy to do.
My Flapper blower mod
http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=110817&highlight=
I put a double wall chimney pipe over the original flue pipe. You will need to make the hole in the roof bigger then reseal. Here it is
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(alslozy1x5lpdx55wmktsxit)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=45065&&SessionExpired=True
I replaced the thermostat with a Ranco. This is a must do for the Shaver. Allows precise on/off of the blower within the temps you want. Also has a readout of waer temp.
http://www.susanminor.org/forums/showthread.php?644-Ranco-ETC-111000-000-120V-Wiring-Guide
You will need to put a dry well in the OWB for the probe of the Ranco. I made a drywell out of a 14" piece of 1/4" copper tubing. I soldiered a cap on one end and a 1/4 to 3/8 coupler on the other. You will need to drill a hole in the top of the water jacket. Insert the well you made. the coupler will prevent it from falling into water jacket. seal it with hi-temp silicone. Insert Ranco probe.
Other things I did.
Slid foil face foam under the OWB
Filled the attic of the OWB with unfaced insulation after the flue mod
Fill the inside of the back door of OWB with unfaced insulation
Also stuffed unfaced insulation inside the firebox door. Just stuff it in between the door and that shield. It will need replaced yearly.
With these easy mods you will transform the Shaver into a much more efficient OWB. The mods are cheap and easy to do.
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Shaver Furnace / For those trying to get their firebox door a little tighter
« on: December 07, 2010, 08:50:01 AM »
Beofre we would try jam a piece of wood or something under the latch when closing the door.
Here is what I did. I got a small piece of 1/8" thick steel and put it there. To hold it in place, I used Hi-temp silicone as if it were glue and siliconed it i place.
It is now semi perminent but can be removed if needed.
You thickness of metal may vary.
Here is what I did. I got a small piece of 1/8" thick steel and put it there. To hold it in place, I used Hi-temp silicone as if it were glue and siliconed it i place.
It is now semi perminent but can be removed if needed.
You thickness of metal may vary.
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 05, 2010, 05:05:33 PM »
I won't dance around, I'll just come out and say it.
I realize this is a forum and is meant to ask questions. I've followed along watching and reading on this site.
I see that you sell Heat Master and it looked to me as if you were trying to bash another poster on this forum for selling Shavers.
I believe that the other poster tried to make it clear that there is a market for Shavers because of its lower price compared to other manufacturers.
I'll come right out and say that it appeared to me that you were trying to promote your furnace on the Shaver thread hoping someone researching Shavers would se you posts.
You make a claim that Central Boiler and Heat master are more dominate, yet if we click over onto the Heat Master forum on this board, we don't see much going on over there. I wonder why that is.
It appears to me that you are fishing in someone elses pond here. Yes, it is a forum but the way you come across, it seems you have other motives. You sell Heat Masters so that can be understood.
Now you wouldn't want someone going over on the Heat Master thread and start putting down you OWBs would you?
We could compare prices for your model that heas the same square footage as a Shaver or we could compare fire box thickness. Those two things are what convinced me to get a Shaver. I know from being on other boards, that is the very thing that sold those guys on getting a Shaver too. Those are Shaver's strong points.
I will admit that the fit and finish on Shavers is not up to par compared to any other OWB out there.
To me as well as others, we bought these things to heat our homes not for a lawn ornament.
I don't want to come across as a smart alic just letting you know that by being a Shaver owner I can understand why someone would buy this OWB over another brand. Even though it needs several mods to get it to where other furnaces are at, it was still cheaper with me doing a couple mods
Carry on !
I realize this is a forum and is meant to ask questions. I've followed along watching and reading on this site.
I see that you sell Heat Master and it looked to me as if you were trying to bash another poster on this forum for selling Shavers.
I believe that the other poster tried to make it clear that there is a market for Shavers because of its lower price compared to other manufacturers.
I'll come right out and say that it appeared to me that you were trying to promote your furnace on the Shaver thread hoping someone researching Shavers would se you posts.
You make a claim that Central Boiler and Heat master are more dominate, yet if we click over onto the Heat Master forum on this board, we don't see much going on over there. I wonder why that is.
It appears to me that you are fishing in someone elses pond here. Yes, it is a forum but the way you come across, it seems you have other motives. You sell Heat Masters so that can be understood.
Now you wouldn't want someone going over on the Heat Master thread and start putting down you OWBs would you?
We could compare prices for your model that heas the same square footage as a Shaver or we could compare fire box thickness. Those two things are what convinced me to get a Shaver. I know from being on other boards, that is the very thing that sold those guys on getting a Shaver too. Those are Shaver's strong points.
I will admit that the fit and finish on Shavers is not up to par compared to any other OWB out there.
To me as well as others, we bought these things to heat our homes not for a lawn ornament.
I don't want to come across as a smart alic just letting you know that by being a Shaver owner I can understand why someone would buy this OWB over another brand. Even though it needs several mods to get it to where other furnaces are at, it was still cheaper with me doing a couple mods
Carry on !
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 05, 2010, 01:09:05 PM »
I am not sure but I thought I read on another board that Heat Master is actually a Global Hydrinics.
Global Hydronics was selling OWBs under several names.
Not sure if Heat Master is one of them.
If so, There are several issues about them and their warranty.
I believe you actually have to send the entire furnace out to be repaired. Boy wouldn't that suck?
Global Hydronics was selling OWBs under several names.
Not sure if Heat Master is one of them.
If so, There are several issues about them and their warranty.
I believe you actually have to send the entire furnace out to be repaired. Boy wouldn't that suck?
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Shaver Furnace / Re: Fan opening - draft control
« on: December 05, 2010, 08:44:08 AM »
I am a long time lurker and finally feel it is time for me to chime in. I am a Shaver owner and am one of those people that bought the Shaver because of the price. Yes it does not have the fit and finish as let's say a Central Boiler.
I like it and it heats well!
I belong to another board and many of us have made several improvements. I came up with dryer vent flapper for the blower. It works very well. I have done several mods. They are all relatively cheap and easy to do.
I, as well as other members on that other board, enjoy tinkering and improving on the Shaver.
As far as the competition coming on the Shaver board to put down Shavers, I just see that they must be worried. Or else why bother coming here?
I don't see them going to Central Boiler and comparing their furnace to them. Is that because they know CB makes a better furnace?
I also don't see Hardy or CB or any other brand going to the Heat Master board to bash their furnace.
It is pretty low for someone to do that.
How thick is the firebox on the Heatmaster?
How large of an area does that $4200 Heat master Heat?
You mentioned SS, I am aware that SS can not stand up to the contraction of heating and cooling like mild steel. Some OWB companies have done away with SS because of problems that develope over time. Is Heat Master still using SS?
Does Heatmaster have an on site warranty for their furnace or do you have to send it to them to do repairs?
Anyone care to compare warranties?
How long has Heat Master been in business?
I like it and it heats well!
I belong to another board and many of us have made several improvements. I came up with dryer vent flapper for the blower. It works very well. I have done several mods. They are all relatively cheap and easy to do.
I, as well as other members on that other board, enjoy tinkering and improving on the Shaver.
As far as the competition coming on the Shaver board to put down Shavers, I just see that they must be worried. Or else why bother coming here?
I don't see them going to Central Boiler and comparing their furnace to them. Is that because they know CB makes a better furnace?
I also don't see Hardy or CB or any other brand going to the Heat Master board to bash their furnace.
It is pretty low for someone to do that.
How thick is the firebox on the Heatmaster?
How large of an area does that $4200 Heat master Heat?
You mentioned SS, I am aware that SS can not stand up to the contraction of heating and cooling like mild steel. Some OWB companies have done away with SS because of problems that develope over time. Is Heat Master still using SS?
Does Heatmaster have an on site warranty for their furnace or do you have to send it to them to do repairs?
Anyone care to compare warranties?
How long has Heat Master been in business?