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Plumbing / Re: Flat plate and sidearm water heater heat exchangers
« on: January 23, 2020, 07:46:15 PM »
Slimjim, at my old house I had to reset the breaker on the water heater when I shut down the boiler because the water was that hot.  I was using a sidearm exhcnager with a stainless Taco 007 to circulate the tank.  This house, it's just passively heating the water inside, though I think it still gets up to the same temperature eventually.  I never have to reset the breaker on this water heater.  I do have a mixing valve to tone the water down to about 135 degrees, which is still pretty hot but not ~160 like the boiler's low set temp is. 



I'm looking at the 10 plate exhanger from Anderson's. 
http://www.freeheat4u.com/LB31-10-1-INCH-10-PLATE_p_172.html

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Plumbing / Re: Flat plate and sidearm water heater heat exchangers
« on: January 22, 2020, 05:55:18 PM »
I have 4 kids and I work a flex schedule.  We don't usually go long stretches without using hot water.  The sidearm is plumbed between the drain valve and the cold inlet.  I didn't touch the relief valve so it would be totally unaltered. 

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Plumbing / Flat plate and sidearm water heater heat exchangers
« on: January 22, 2020, 04:59:07 PM »
I currently have a sidearm heat exchanger on my water heater.  It warms the water in the water heater nice and hot.  I installed that when I had hard and iron water.  I have since installed an iron filter and water softener.  I am at zero grains of hardness and no iron in my water.  So, now is the time to go with a flat plate heat exchanger, right?  I want to heat the water coming into the water heater so I have (essentially) unlimited hot water.


Should I remove the sidearm heat exchanger all together?  It would be a little more work to keep it plumbed into the system if I also ran the flat plate.  The water heater can maintain temperature, so I don't think I need the sidearm anymore. 


I have already flushed the crud out of the water heater since having soft water, don't worry. 

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General Discussion / Re: Home Electrical Question
« on: January 10, 2020, 07:58:04 AM »
Wall mounted sconces?

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: January 03, 2020, 08:26:10 AM »
It seems to be chugging along great with an open chimney and new blower.  I burned a bunch of cardboard and wrapping paper last night and I had flames shooting out the chimney, which is a good sign of burning the creosote in the chimney. 

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: January 01, 2020, 05:10:49 PM »
I am an idiot because it has plugged up before, though never this bad.  I spent a couple hours today really cleaning the chimney out.  Even the vertical above the horizontal was getting plugged up. 

Before I cleaned the chimney out, I scraped the old door seal out, took the wire wheel to it, and installed a new door seal and silicone.  It says it needs 24 hours to cure, so I'll light a fire tomorrow evening giving it about 36 hours total cure time.  In conjunction with the chimney now freely flowing again, a properly sealing door should prevent creosote from dripping out of the door now. 

I cleaned out the firebox as best I could.  There is a lot of gooey creosote in the corners in there that needs burned off to get out.  I vacuumed the ash tube after I cleared the ashes out of it.  I vacuumed the tube the blower bolts onto. 

I installed the new blower today, as well.  Hopefully when I light this off again tomorrow night, all of the poor burning issues will be resolved and any leftover creosote will burn off easily.  I'm going to burn a firebox full of cardboard first just to make sure. 


Here's the new blower:


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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 31, 2019, 09:02:34 PM »
Well, I'm an idiot.  The horizontal chimney portion was caked in creosote.  I poked at it, pulled it out in globs, opened the whole thing up, and then filled the fire box with cardboard.  It should be pretty clean come morning.  The old blower seems to be working adequately now.  I'm still going to swap blowers out and keep the old one as a spare. 

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 31, 2019, 08:14:11 PM »
The new blower is here.  I also ordered a new door seal kit since it needed replaced anyways.  Tomorrow is supposed to be fairly mild so I'm not loading the firebox tonight so the fire burns out.  I'll give it a thorough cleaning inside and out and then replace the blower and seal the door.  I should be able to fire it back up on the 2nd. 



Doing some more thinking, but there's a possibility that the horizontal section of my chimney is getting plugged up.  I usually clean it out yearly, but I don't think I did this year.  That might keep air from moving into the firebox and thus be why it seems as though the blower isn't working well.  I'll make sure to get that cleaned out tomorrow, too.  Either way, I'm swapping blowers. 

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 23, 2019, 11:06:31 PM »
1TDP7 on it's way.  I'll toss this one in the corner for emergency use. 

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 22, 2019, 08:34:47 PM »
Sounds good.  I'll just get the 1TDP7 replacement version of the one I posted.  Is it normal for the blowers to slow in performance?  While running, I can hear the flapper going *ting* *ting* *ting* the whole time and sometimes the water temperature gets as low as 140, which is abnormal. 

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 20, 2019, 06:46:54 PM »
Do you have one to recommend, RSI?  I don't even know the difference.

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Heatmor / Re: Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 20, 2019, 11:48:30 AM »
Also, if I go for a larger fan (I would almost prefer it), I can easily modify the existing mount or build a new one so it fits.  The fan mount is a flat plate over the end of a 6" pipe with two studs that hold the plate on.  The fan simply bolts onto that plate with the flapper welded to the other side of the plate.  Easy enough to modify or build.

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Heatmor / Heatmor 200CSS blower fan
« on: December 20, 2019, 11:33:05 AM »
I think my blower fan is getting a bit weak these days.  Even with a clear ash tube and no ash on the shaker grates, it doesn't seem to be moving as much air as it used to into the fire box.  If I put my hand over the intake of the blower, it doesn't draw it in at all.  The blower can barely blow the metal flap open and it's constantly falling back closed while the blower is running.  The flap moves very easily and isn't bound up, so that isn't the issue.


Is this the proper replacement blower?
https://altheatsupply.com/dayton-4c446-6fhx8-blower-draft-fan.html


And, should I consider running a larger blower, perhaps?

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The Harbor Freight copy of the Honda inverter generators is pretty good.  You can get the 2000 watt inverter generator on sale for usually $450, but full price is only $500.  It will outlast your 8 hour power outage and run your entire boiler at the same time.  It takes no special engineering, time, or oddball power sources.  Put it down, turn it on, plug in the boiler, back in business. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/electrical/gasoline-generators/2000-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-62523.html



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Propane is over $3/gallon here. 

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