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Title: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: Sprinter on February 21, 2014, 09:41:24 AM
,*] Of its residents. To make less than 30, (thirty) residents satisfied. A resident submitted his version of what the OWB regulated ordinance should contain. The Township board accepted and approved in short order with minor language changes. We wish they would act this fast on the more important issues that have been tabled in the township for some time now. "[*Quo


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Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: fryedaddy on February 21, 2014, 12:31:11 PM
Sure am glad my boiler is inside my building!!!!

My dog lives in the shop FYI
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: juddspaintballs on February 21, 2014, 03:19:32 PM
If someone tries telling me what I can and cannot use to heat my home, they're likely going to be looking down the barrel of a 12 gauge really quickly.  I'm tired of this stupidity.  I moved to the mountains to get away from asshats and I will not tolerate them coming out here. 
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: slimjim on February 21, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
People, we're losing!
   YES WE ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: ijon on February 22, 2014, 04:39:04 AM
My niece pretty much summed it up  that we all got to comfortable.  All our toys, and things that made us warm and fuzzy. Meanwhile the politicians are piece by piece taking apart the constitution.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 22, 2014, 05:27:06 AM
While they are shaking your hand with there right they have there left hand in your pocket. I am in upstate NY the land of lost rights and out of control taxes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The problem is to many people just want to follow the sheep now and are afraid
to speak there mind.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: slimjim on February 22, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
Wow, is there a revolution in the air this morning or what. It can be a war of words, speak your mind folks to all who will listen and forget the brain dead give me guys, they won't last long
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: american-pacemaker on February 22, 2014, 05:42:19 AM
Sorry I know that was a little of the topic but I just spoke with my tax man and this year I am taking a beating. Just had to voice my frustration.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: wissel12 on February 22, 2014, 07:03:00 AM
The second part of that is the biggest bulls::t I have ever heard.  What about grand fathering?  I would have to fight that one in court.  And election time, some new people in office. I'm glad I live in a township with no zoning. They put it on the ballet and got hammered.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: Sprinter on February 22, 2014, 08:31:21 AM
Mother Nature fixes everything, politicians screw even their own blood, only a revolution will fix this country, as new management will likely be more of the same just effecting different people.

Clone John Wayne, kickin butt and taking names. No more of this PC crap and let freedom and common sense laws rule. 
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: ijon on February 23, 2014, 04:45:48 AM
Common sense is a dead.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: jtepn87 on February 23, 2014, 09:26:00 AM
That's what I really like about this board. It's full of people with common sense, who try to help each other instead of getting in a pissing match every thread.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: oldchenowth on February 24, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
The problem I have is I am only a few counties away.  I am sure something like this is headed my way.  They washed their hands of all liability, even if deemed unconstitutional.  Screw you the resident, no matter what!  You MUST PAY for your heat!  A little odd that minority rules in many parts of this "free" country.  Strange that someone does not like or understand something, it must become illegal for all.

Freakin' blood pressure is skyrocketing.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: Sprinter on February 24, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Well, when they have town hall meetings they are supposed to inform residents to give them their 5 minutes to dispute. Some don't give this notice. And that's an automatic throw out in court. See this is where all our tax dollars go to fund these grants and studies by biased parties. Then those studies become official and that's what they use as proof and ammunition to make or enforce these laws. The little guy does not have the money or resources to fight this battle. The OWB manufacturers would be smart to install free heat for some top attorneys and scientist and have their own studies.

A lot of this harmful smoke study has been disproven in regards to cigs, trash incinerators, coal, biomass energy at sewage plants. But this is where billions were at stake and they had to spend millions of their own money to disprove the taxpayer funded joke studies. Happens in a lot of fields. How do politicians take a job that pays fractions of what they were making in the free market. Oh it's not for the love of country in 99% of the cases! it's to manipulate the market in their area of expertise. The poorest senator is a multimillionaire , it's all carefully hidden away,you see what they want you to see, you do what they want you to do.....

Fight the good fight, and battle with facts and plenty of info if you wanna have a chance
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: franky1 on February 24, 2014, 01:28:48 PM
Nobody  listens to the public anymore.
The ones in command, they decide how they are gona DO it.
then they call a ameeting with the public to, make us believe they want to listen,,,and then they think about it for a few weeks,,then they do what they had decided in the first place.
I have lived in a few places in my years,,all over they are the same.
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: mikemike on February 24, 2014, 06:12:15 PM
SLIM JIM for president   U GOT MY VOTE
Title: Re: Port Sheldon Michigan, violates constitutional rights and grandfather laws
Post by: franky1 on February 24, 2014, 06:27:30 PM
Slim Jimmy,,yes it is,,no beer for the party,,,Bourbon would be more satisfying.... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: