Hi Scott
Sorry I didn't mean to step on your toes there, I'm very open minded and always open to constructive debate. The facts you"ve presented are part of the reason I'm on here. What I'm suggesting is the new gassers create a different fire box atmosphere that directly impacts the material in a negative way. Never positive.
Why??? That's where my questions begin? Everything from the steel manufacturing process, grade, alloy content, quenching solution, heat affectected weld zones, hydrogen embritlement, diffusion, deformation, segregation and hydrocarbon atmospheres effects come to mind. Finally the end users habits. I'm curious, where is the inconsistency? Obviously, the end user is to blame??? currently. Wouldn't it be great to tell a customer yea, 10 -15 years if you don't take care of it double that if ya do.
Instead of 2 and 6.
Please bear with me as I get up to speed on the industry and subject.
Thank you
Randy
Ur not stepping on my toes, I know that there are a lot of issues with gasification furnaces in general. It's a whole other animal. When a stove fails in only a couple years, it is rarely the users fault.
I saw 1 stove fail in less than a year on a customer heating his swimming pool, it was a gassifier but he had return water temps coming back the exact temperature as his pool water was, it was literally raining inside his firebox.
Then there is the other side of this debate, these larger companies know that they "could" build a better product, but they know they have to build something within a price range, so I think they honestly build the stove to the best of the ability to keep the price range where it needs to be. The 2300 for example, I don't feel that was anything intentional, I doubt you do either. There was a lot of unforeseen issues there.
I think the added costs of building a better stove could easily push prices to where it simply wasn't feasible for the consumer level, you remind me of my dad who was involved with the rail road and govt specs and he fails to realize that consumer level products can't be made to the quality of an industrial unit or it would never be affordable. I'm not saying you think exactly like him lol but I think the changes your thinking would build a better stove, but at what cost???
If you were to go on your own, you better have money to burn because to get your products through testing from ul and the EPA costs a boo coo, and even then you have be able to compete with the hype, propaganda, and mass advertising of some of the ones who have been around forever. Selling your ideas may be a better idea, but if the company can't see it on there bottom line, there not goin to care one way or the other.
I see instances all the time where I "know" what would work better and why, but to convince someone else that when most things on the Internet tell them differently, that's a Job lol
Look forward to hearing your ideas