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[Steinacher Sales]

To all,

These panels look a lot better than home made ones to be sure.

Evacuated Tube Solar Collectors are useful in every climate and location, they are happy down to -30 Degrees F.  The vacuum sealed tube is freeze proof, maintaining temperatures of over 250 degrees inside while the outside temperature is freezing. This outstanding performance in colder climates give Evacuated Tube Solar Collectors a decided advantage over Flat Plate Solar Collectors in mid to northern locations.

I sell a 36 tube with tank, (110 gal.) and a 60 tube without a tank.

You only need a tank or some sort of holding tank if you do not have any water capacity. I have my wood furnace its Shaver 165, with 170 gal. water. Plus my 40 gal. hot water heater.

I might be better with a 60 tube since I already have the water capacity!

[Steinacher Sales]

To all,

This is my set up. I put my panel on a trailer to take to events and shows.

Greg Steinacher

618-401-0726

[Steinacher Sales]

To all,

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To all,

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To all,

I have documented some temperatures:

This is with the Ranco digital thermostat set at 155 degrees F.
 
House heated to 70 degrees.
 
Domestic water heated to 125 degrees. I need to cool this down some.
 
Solar water heater and Shaver Outdoor Wood Furnace are 50 ft. apart.
 
Line between them are not insulated at this time.
 
Pump set to run only when water at Wood Furnace cools below 155 degrees.
 
Keeping a little wood in the Outdoor Furnace for now.





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Solar Water heater (110 gal. water) and Shaver Pro Series 165 Outdoor Furnace (170 gal. water) water temperatures.
 
Wednesday, April 9, 2014
8:00 am          Added wood to furnace.
 
12:00 noon    Furnace water temp.           159 degrees F
                        Solar water heater temp.    154 
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Thursday, April 10, 2014
12:30 am         Furnace water temp.            158
                          Solar water heater temp.     185 
                          Outside temp.                          57
 
8:00 am           Added wood (24 hours later!)
                          Furnace water temp.             153
                          Solar water heater temp.      157
                          Outside temp.                           60
 
10:30 am          Furnace water temp.             162 
                           Solar water heater temp.     164
                           Outside temp.                          70
 
12:15 pm           Furnace water temp.            168
                            Solar water heater temp.     175
                            Outside temp.                          77
 
2:00 pm              Furnace water temp.            177
                             Solar water heater temp.     186
                             Outside temp.                          80
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Friday, April 11, 2014
12:30 am            Furnace water temp.             188
                             Solar water heater temp.      191
                             Outside temp.                           55
 
9:00 am               Added wood (25 hours later!)
                              Furnace water temp.             147
                              Solar water heater temp.      152
                              Outside temp.                           61
 
11:00 am             Furnace water temp.             154
                              Solar water heater temp.      164
                              Outside temp.                           69

 

2:00 pm                Furnace water temp.            154

                               Solar water heater temp.     185

                               Outside temp.                          72

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Saturday, April 12, 2014

12:30 am              Furnace water temp.             159

                               Solar water heater temp.      177

                               Outside temp.                           56

 

6:00 pm                Added wood (33 hours later!)

                               Furnace water temp.             165

                               Solar water heater temp.      213

                               Outside temp.                           60

 

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Sunday, April 13, 2014      "Raining, cloud cover"

8:00 am                 Furnace water temp.              156

                               Solar water heater temp.       201

                               Outside temp.                            60

 

10:30 am               Furnace water temp.              173

                               Solar water heater temp.       198

                               Outside temp.                            66

 

12:30 pm              Furnace water temp.               173

                               Solar heater water temp.        196

                               Outside temp.                             75

 

2:30 pm                Furnace water temp.                172

                               Solar water heater temp.        196

                               Outside temp.                             73

 

4:30 pm                Furnace water temp.                178

                               Solar water heater temp.         202

                               Outside temp.                              72

 

6:30 pm                Furnace water temp.                 183

                               Solar water heater temp.          202

                               Outside temp.                               69


Next test will be with no wood!


 Greg Steinacher
618-401-0726

[Roger2561]

Greg, what kind of price can we expect to pay for the system without the tank?  I already have a 40 gallon tank inside the house for DHW.   Roger

[Steinacher Sales]

Roger, Sorry I forgot to put the prices.

They are both $2,260.00 each, with or without the tank.

One is a 36 tube with tank and the 60 does not have a tank.

The more reserve you have the longer your hot water will last, say over night for instance.

If you wanted to heat your CB and your domestic you would probably need two. I would discount more if you need two! Probably $2,000.00 each.

There would be shipping. Would have to call to find that out.

Greg Steinacher
618-401-0726

[Sprinter]

Those are some impressive numbers, what kind of flow or output are you seeing. I mean how long at those numbers you posted would it take to charge the 300 gallons.
I would like to see what kind of recovery with no wood. And the prices seem pretty good if you can operate with no wood between 40-65 degree outdoor temps.

[12valve]

SO I have 360 gallons of water in my boiler.  I would be interested if those tubes could heat my water enough in the summer that I need no wood?  And if they give a little bonus btu's in the dead of winter I am all for that too.

[Roger2561]

Greg,

I'm quite ignorant when it comes to solar so I'm a little slow on the uptake.  The 110 gal tank you mentioned above, is that the unit that's attached to the collector tubes in the photos?  Or, is it something completely separate and is located elsewhere?  Thanks, Roger 

[Steinacher Sales]

Sprinter,
I have my setup ran with water hoses 5/8", for ease of unhooking and tanking to events. My flow is restricted because of that and the run is 50 or 60 ft. between the furnace and the Solar water heater. There is also 60 ft. of 5/8" copper in the 36 tube unit. Its around 160 to 180 ft. run. I getting about 3 gpm witch is ok because it needs to move through the solar unit slower to pickup the heat. My dhw exchanger is in my furnace, 50 coil of 5/8 copper and that loop is on its own thermostat and pump.

If you start with cold water I don't know how long it would take. I sure it would be easier to maintain if you started of with warm water. My next test will be with no water. I don't know where you are located, but here in Illinois you looking to not use any wood until Nov, Dec.? Don't really know yet. The factory has a 60 tube on a furnace total water is about 400 gal., maybe a little more Its a pretty big building. Its been heating the building at 68 to 70 degrees for about a month now its kept up, but on a few cold days it struggled. He said he will need two.

12valve,

For the summer one 60 tube might be enough. you can always try one, then add another one later. They need to face South. If you order at two different times you pay two different shipping fees. I do not have any details on dead of winter figures. The should do fairly well in the winter. I think they are considered about 100,000 btu on a 60 tube.

Greg Steinaher
618-401-0726

[Steinacher Sales]

Roger,

Its the capacity of the whole unit tubes and tank on top, and there is a 60' coil of 5/8 copper running through the top tank. That is the exchanger.

Here is the 60 tube, no tank, still holds 100 gal. The water is directly used from the solar unit no exchanger.

The 36 tube unit the tubes are vertical and the 60 they are horizontal. If you look the 60 tube tubes are a little higher in the center to allow for the heat to rise.

[12valve]

Thanks for the answers Greg.  Do the units come with pumps or controls or is it simply the panel and all other things would be an additional expense?

[Steinacher Sales]

12valve,

It is just the panel!

Greg Steinacher