Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Earth Outdoor Wood Furnaces => Topic started by: candyman on November 12, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
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mountainn 505 wiil be shipped by the end of the month. with dealers in 11 states certanily someone has one . share your experience with other earth owners & those that may be considering buying one.
i sure would like to hear from other owners bad & good.
candyman
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This was my 2nd choice. Ended up going with CB 6048. Definately let me know how it turns out. Seemed like a nice unit.
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sure will should be delivered end of the month.
dug the ditch 3 ft. deep put in line to house & covered up, man what a job just about 100 ft. now have to dig ditch to the pole barn.
boy digging with a spade is hard work. tell me about your unit & install process.
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Mine was only about 40ft away. I had some other digging to do so I rented a bobcat. That was a ton of fun.
So far my installation is just about done. I have a plate exchanger for hot water, 3 water-air exchangers and a tube exchanger for the pool water. Had it all plumbed up, but the HVAC guys punctured the one exchanger so I had to rip it back out. Supposedly fixed now so I have to re-plumb it.
I yanked the "Y" wire from the thermostats to control the exchangers. Had a little trouble with the one not being able to drive the valvue. So I have an isolation switch. Need to install that now. Then the system should be all ready.
The pex is a supper pain to work with and it does expand a lot. I used crimp fittings myself. I would like to try the push in ones some time. Although I wonder how you undo them? I can release the crimps and cut the pipe off. I would hate to have to cut the entire fitting out to replace it.
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Push fittings have a release ring. Really convenient. No need to change from crimps though.
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When doing your rough in work under or inside the home get your pex in straight lengths, you can get them in 20ft sticks that make rough in a breeze. I give bout 14.50/stick
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muffin,
let us know when u fire it up.
where do u get pex in 20 ft. all i could find at lows is 10 ft.
cm
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muffin,
let us know when u fire it up.
where do u get pex in 20 ft. all i could find at lows is 10 ft.
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Most plumbing supply places have 20ft lengths. (excluding lowes or homedepot)
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Please let us know your overall experience with earth. I think they have a good looking product for the money and I've often wondered about a brand I could sell as an alternative to the high end heatmaster.
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My CB has been running since Oct. It stared with just the Pool water/room and my hot water in the loop. Now I have the house on it too, but I tried to just let it cycle through my one Hx all the time. I was hoping this would heat the garage, which is where it is located, but I think it is radiating way to much heat so I am going to put it on a valve too. Perhaps the radiante heat from all the equipment and pipe will be enough. Otherwise I can always get it its own Hx.
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Well good luck with yours, I've had nothing but problems with the company and with the stove, if we're talking about an Earth wood furnace from Mountain Grove ,Mo.
I was hoping to find someone else who had bought one and maybe get some ideas on how to keep the fire burning after the door's shut and how to keep the water temp from dropping . I can't seem to keep enough wood in it. I build a fire before work, I build a fire after work and I build a fire in the middle of the night. What coals don't smolder away the wood and let the fire go out the ashes amother the coals and then the fire goes out anyway.
This is my second winter, my furnace is about 3 years old, got it Nov '09 and didnt get it in till the following year but maybe they made some improvements since then, thats what I'm looking for, some way to keep the heat up
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I've looked at them and saw nothing in the design that should cause that.
Your fan is running? Chimney clogged?
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I've looked at them and saw nothing in the design that should cause that.
Your fan is running? Chimney clogged?
Or if it has one, bad solenoid on the air shutoff?
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everything's running, the fans running 24 hours a day, the pump runs 24 hours a day and the central air blower runs constantly, the chimney isn't clogged , the solenoid works, the temp has been reset to 170 to ease up on it so that maybe it will reach the shutoff temp. Once it leaves the 170 and starts to drop because of heat loss in the house it never reagins temp again, a constant drop. I did notice the ash pileup on the solid sheet steel inside where the fire is was smothering my coals. Seems the only time I get a good fire is when I have the door open butthen I get a heat loss, shut the door and temp starts to rise until the fire goes out. Did I mention what brand this is, it's the Rancher 360 from Earth Wood furnaces. I'm looking for someone who has one of these so maybe I can get these problems fixed
thanks
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Does it have an air adjustment? Probably a plate that can slide out between the fan and boiler.
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All this has is a blower on the back that goes through to the ash pit, above that is a quarter inch piece of sheet metal with an opening up front by the door, about16 by 16 inches roughly. The fire area is around 36 by 36 inches, 36 deep for sure and the only opening for air to acces the fire is the opening up front.The chimney sticks down in the burn area about maybe 16 inches which the burn area is about 30 something inches high maybe. Theres a solenoid on the blower in the back that opens when the blower kicks on when it call for more air, it runs constantly, never reaches the programmed temp of 170.
I really dont see how air will find its way from the back of the stove beneath the burn area up to the front of the stove, find the 16 inch opening, go up and backtrack back to the fire and have enough force to fan the fire to get it going enough to generate enough heat to warm up a half inch thick boiler plate and have enough heat to then start to boil water to 170 degrees. My guess is theres not enough air, and with the chimney sticking down half the height of the stove burn area maybe the fire chokes out from smoke. I just got in from rebulding it again, it's 11 30 pm,I went through this all last winter and it looks like i'm starting it again, i 've used seasoned wood, fresh cut wood, small, big, kindling, anything thatd burn, I've had it packed but this will not generate heat. I'm just looking for someone who owns one of these that can give me some advice on this or a dealer who felt this was a good enough product over all the others to sell
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Can you take pics of your set up? Seems different than what I've seen.
The thick fire box really adds to this problem, it takes about 25-27% more wood to produce the same amount of heat through a 1/2" box as it does a 1/4" box, of course they don't tell you that part.
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Definitely sounds like an air issue. We looked at these and almost bought one. Does yours have the adjustable teardrop air inlet under the blower motor? The new ones do and are manually adjustable.
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I got the woodsman 405 set up in late october and it has been burning ever since. Haven't had any issues other than the flap on the blower has got stuck a couple of times, and am still waiting for results from my water test. Of course though my blower is on the loading door, sounds like yours is different. I fill it before I go to work in the morning and then before I go to bed and it has worked great. They set mine up at 160 and fan comes on at 155.
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my mountain man 505 came in, put it in the barn for now. boy that unit is heavy had to put 7' back blade & two big logs on the back to hold down the tractor { kubota mx5100].
i`ll try to post pix tonite. not sure how to do it.
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The stove with the blower on the back sounds like a shaver not like the earths Ive looked at, but maybe thats how they made them in 09. Still shavers work good with the rear blower under the ash pan, I have a friend with one. Got to be something simple, you sure the blower is moving air inside the fire box? will it burn if you leave the door cracked ?
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I watched the earth video and in it I saw a stove with the blower in the rear! oops! Sounds like what you need is grating in the bottom for the ash to fall thru into the ash pan and let the air hit the coals, not the sheet metal you have. ??