Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: Dirtslinger on January 31, 2009, 10:52:52 PM
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I have a finshed room in the basement that needs heat what is the best thing to use.
I a woodmaster 4400 runing into forced air furnace that heats my house up stairs and 2 vents in that room but its not warm cant add more vents takes away from up stairs
My pump runs all the time per woodmaster.
:bash:
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I have a finshed room in the basement that needs heat what is the best thing to use.
I a woodmaster 4400 runing into forced air furnace that heats my house up stairs and 2 vents in that room but its not warm cant add more vents takes away from up stairs
My pump runs all the time per woodmaster.
:bash:
Hot water baseboard?
I have seen on line somewhere a complete packaged forced air unit..it has a blower..rad..and thermostat all enclosed and all you need to do is get the pipe to it. I seen one a few years back in a guys basement, he had one room poorly insulated and put this thing in his basement below....added a little ductwork and put in a floor vent and put the thermostat in the room..when the wind blew a certain way and cooled his room he just turned up the thermostat on this unit and warmed things up
i have a fireplace in my basement that i no longer use...i filled the chimney with insulation and removed the flu pipe..i ran pex through my joists and put a rad and fan inside the fireplace..fan is on a switch on the wall...no thermostat i just flick er on when i get cold
there is always a way
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I have a finshed room in the basement that needs heat what is the best thing to use.
I a woodmaster 4400 runing into forced air furnace that heats my house up stairs and 2 vents in that room but its not warm cant add more vents takes away from up stairs
My pump runs all the time per woodmaster.
:bash:
Hot water baseboard?
I have seen on line somewhere a complete packaged forced air unit..it has a blower..rad..and thermostat all enclosed and all you need to do is get the pipe to it. I seen one a few years back in a guys basement, he had one room poorly insulated and put this thing in his basement below....added a little ductwork and put in a floor vent and put the thermostat in the room..when the wind blew a certain way and cooled his room he just turned up the thermostat on this unit and warmed things up
i have a fireplace in my basement that i no longer use...i filled the chimney with insulation and removed the flu pipe..i ran pex through my joists and put a rad and fan inside the fireplace..fan is on a switch on the wall...no thermostat i just flick er on when i get cold
there is always a way
Thanks if you can find th info on that packaged forced air send it my way
I have big castiron rad in it now in my return line after my furnace doesn't work that well
I would like to run baseboard but what all would have to do most of that is only 3/4" and my lines are 1"
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not the exact one i seen but you can buy the parts to make one or copy what you see..i hate to pu tin a sales pitch for any company but if you go to central boilers site and download their parts catolauge you will find what i am talking about around page 3 or 4 i think
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not the exact one i seen but you can buy the parts to make one or copy what you see..i hate to pu tin a sales pitch for any company but if you go to central boilers site and download their parts catolauge you will find what i am talking about around page 3 or 4 i think
That would work just have to find one
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I hate to give a sales pitch either but Central Boiler also has a lot of diagrams on how to put combined systems together...
http://www.centralboiler.com/otherExamples.html
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If the lines for baseboard are smaller than yours, wouldn't a 3/4"-1" fitting and a 1"-3/4" fitting solve your problem? There has to be some kind of fitting that would let everything line up.
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yep it would be easy to put a reducer on but you want to make sure you're not reducing flow to another part of your system that needs all of the water coming from the 1" line.
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Good point. Haven't had my coffee yet.
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I have a finshed room in the basement that needs heat what is the best thing to use.
I a woodmaster 4400 runing into forced air furnace that heats my house up stairs and 2 vents in that room but its not warm cant add more vents takes away from up stairs
My pump runs all the time per woodmaster.
:bash:
Hot water baseboard?
I have seen on line somewhere a complete packaged forced air unit..it has a blower..rad..and thermostat all enclosed and all you need to do is get the pipe to it. I seen one a few years back in a guys basement, he had one room poorly insulated and put this thing in his basement below....added a little ductwork and put in a floor vent and put the thermostat in the room..when the wind blew a certain way and cooled his room he just turned up the thermostat on this unit and warmed things up
i have a fireplace in my basement that i no longer use...i filled the chimney with insulation and removed the flu pipe..i ran pex through my joists and put a rad and fan inside the fireplace..fan is on a switch on the wall...no thermostat i just flick er on when i get cold
there is always a way
I am going to install two 8' sections in the room how should I hook them up to my OWB.
I have 1' lines coming into my forcedair exchanger and thats it.
Should I get a plate exchanger and make it on its own loop
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Slinger, i used a header set up on my installation. it has worked well for me
OWB pipes enter the house and go into a "feed" and "return" header so each "appliance" has it's own feed and return line that is also valved off at the return and the feed. These valves allow for isolating any or all "appliances" if i need to work on one
Also these vlaves allow to "choke" or slow the feed to any "appliance"
If you have a header, you can buy (or build) one with one or two extra "outlets" for future use as well
If i was going to use baseboard heaters i would feed them with the hottest water my OWB will deliver and use a thermostat and a zone valve on the feed line (only of course if i had a header system as i described above)
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Hey Willie, my stuff just doesn't look that good because of all the experimenting I did in the early days. Just tying into my dinosaur was hard enough, then I tried for a little efficiency. To make a long story short, do you have any pictures of your near piping that you'd be willing to share? I'm just curious, I like to see how much better people do things than me..heheh
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Hey Willie, my stuff just doesn't look that good because of all the experimenting I did in the early days. Just tying into my dinosaur was hard enough, then I tried for a little efficiency. To make a long story short, do you have any pictures of your near piping that you'd be willing to share? I'm just curious, I like to see how much better people do things than me..heheh
I never said it was pretty..it just works
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thats just the feed header and my filter, the return header is below that
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I think it looks pretty good. I'm not even going to embarrass myself with a picture of my setup.
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thats just the feed header and my filter, the return header is below that
Looks good willie
I had a guy tell me to buy a 30 plate exchanger and hook the main feed to it and out of it go to the heat exchanger in my furnace and the other side of the 30 plate make the loop for baseboard with a small pump and thermostat
Do you think that would work ok.
Thanks
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thats just the feed header and my filter, the return header is below that
Looks good willie
I had a guy tell me to buy a 30 plate exchanger and hook the main feed to it and out of it go to the heat exchanger in my furnace and the other side of the 30 plate make the loop for baseboard with a small pump and thermostat
Do you think that would work ok.
Thanks
What are you doing with the first 30 plate exchanger?
what i am seeing (and i dont see clear) is OWB feed to a plate exchanger (doing what?) and exit from it going to your furnace then what? and where is this loop for your baseboards?
you need to have your baseboards assured unrestricted hot water in and out for whenever your thermostat turns on your pump (or if you are turning on a zone valve with the stat and your pump runs 24/7 you need to have continuios flow through your pump 24/7
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thats just the feed header and my filter, the return header is below that
Looks good willie
I had a guy tell me to buy a 30 plate exchanger and hook the main feed to it and out of it go to the heat exchanger in my furnace and the other side of the 30 plate make the loop for baseboard with a small pump and thermostat
Do you think that would work ok.
Thanks
Willie
only one 30 plate supply going in it from boiler and out of it to heatexchanger on forcedairand out to boiler the other side of the flatplate would be the loop for baseboard
What are you doing with the first 30 plate exchanger?
what i am seeing (and i dont see clear) is OWB feed to a plate exchanger (doing what?) and exit from it going to your furnace then what? and where is this loop for your baseboards?
you need to have your baseboards assured unrestricted hot water in and out for whenever your thermostat turns on your pump (or if you are turning on a zone valve with the stat and your pump runs 24/7 you need to have continuios flow through your pump 24/7
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Dirtslinger,
I'm with Willie, it sounds like you have your system going through a heat exchanger before another heat exchanger. I'm not sure I'm reading it right. Anyway, I don't believe you'd ever want to take any heat from your supply water by taking it through a HX. In other words, if you are going to your forced air furnace, you want your water as hot as possible, so it should come directly from the stove. Let me see if this diagram attaches itself and hopefully it will explain a little.
http://www.centralboiler.com/Tech/C180.pdf
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i think i understandn now what you are trying to do, but by circulating your baseboard water through the HX (if i have the picture in my head correctly) you have in fact created a "closed loop" system for your baseboard, and with that you will be needing an expansion tank for any temp changes or pressure changes
I think you can elimenate the HX all together and just tee off your furnace feed to your baseboard, control this with a zone valve on your thermostat and also forget the pump (for now) your furnace pump will probably handle it all, if not you will need to have the zone pump come on with zone valve
you dont want the pump running and not moving water, this would burn out the pump