Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: dswogger on September 03, 2012, 05:10:08 PM
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i was wondering if anyone was near me and could tell me about their OWB what brand they are running and what dealer they dealt with. im curious. im getting a new burnrite owb and im planning on installing it myself with in a few weeks. also im looking for the best deal on the insulated pipe, and any install advice.
thanks
Dennis
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You aren't allowed to have a burn rite in pa, your furnaces are supposed to be EPA phase 2.
There is going to be more enforcement/restrictions coming down the line very soon as well, so just some things to consider....
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Be careful the wood boiler police are going to come for you.
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Be careful the wood boiler police are going to come for you.
May sound like a joke but it's much further along than you think, we get letters all the time from EPA phase 2 states advising us to not be caught selling boilers in there states. The homeowners can get in a mess as well, the state of Indiana is the one I'm most familiar with, but there gonna crack down across the board
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I've never received any letters telling me not to sell furnaces to a particular state.
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I've never received any letters telling me not to sell furnaces to a particular state.
We have, I've received letters from Indiana and had phone calls from PA advising me to not sell any furnaces into the state of PA that aren't phase 2.
The KY Dave Yoder has also received letters from Indiana and another state to I believe.
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What do they threaten to do, sue you? I have a hard time believing they could issue a criminal warrant if you only sold a furnace that was transported into the state by the new owner. Now I can understand if you were going into the state and installing furnaces.
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They said the only way to avoid legal action if I sell a furnace that travels into there states, is if the customer had misled me with a fake address.
I called and talked to the state of Indiana, that's where I got most of my info on what could legally be done, they were very helpful.
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I got my CB 5036 Just in time. I am still amazed that a Republican state such as ours was one of the first to restrict use of a standard boiler. I guess it is easier than depending on local governments to keep them out of close neighborhoods. If I had someone like my brother in law next door burning trash and nasty wet green wood I'd be up in someones business. Out here a quarter mile from anyone they had better never try to take my furnace away.
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I got my CB 5036 Just in time. I am still amazed that a Republican state such as ours was one of the first to restrict use of a standard boiler. I guess it is easier than depending on local governments to keep them out of close neighborhoods. If I had someone like my brother in law next door burning trash and nasty wet green wood I'd be up in someones business. Out here a quarter mile from anyone they had better never try to take my furnace away.
I get letters and updates on proposed regs, they won't come and remove it, but some of the new regs or let's say "proposed regs" could make it where if you wanted to refinance your home or sell it, it would have to be up to a "code" now if you had 50 year old windows or an unapproved boiler, you would have to upgrade before you could refi or sell
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The time is coming my friends to take this country back.
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The time is coming my friends to take this country back.
There was once a time when the world wanted to be more like us, now the powers that be want to make us more like the rest of the world.
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After the collapse, maybe our new government will do better. LOL
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I got my CB 5036 Just in time. I am still amazed that a Republican state such as ours was one of the first to restrict use of a standard boiler. I guess it is easier than depending on local governments to keep them out of close neighborhoods. If I had someone like my brother in law next door burning trash and nasty wet green wood I'd be up in someones business. Out here a quarter mile from anyone they had better never try to take my furnace away.
I get letters and updates on proposed regs, they won't come and remove it, but some of the new regs or let's say "proposed regs" could make it where if you wanted to refinance your home or sell it, it would have to be up to a "code" now if you had 50 year old windows or an unapproved boiler, you would have to upgrade before you could refi or sell
that will never pass or be approved...too many old houses out there...and that would be the government saying you can't sell unless you do this.....bs to me
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Matty, I don't know where you think this country is heading but there is examples of that type thing everywhere we look. Every single day govt plays a bigger role in our lives than the day before. They are trying to tell us what to eat, our local schools adopted that Michelle Obama lunch plan, kids can't even eat it and most of the students won't, school has only been in 1 month and teachers are already saying kids are lagging.
So why do you think that would even be the slightest stretch? If they can force us to buy healthcare, why can't you imagine them enforcing EPA regulations, to think not, is amazing.
The EPA has a whole laundry list of stuff like that, you'll be hearing a lot more about it.
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Matty, I don't know where you think this country is heading but there is examples of that type thing everywhere we look. Every single day govt plays a bigger role in our lives than the day before. They are trying to tell us what to eat, our local schools adopted that Michelle Obama lunch plan, kids can't even eat it and most of the students won't, school has only been in 1 month and teachers are already saying kids are lagging.
So why do you think that would even be the slightest stretch? If they can force us to buy healthcare, why can't you imagine them enforcing EPA regulations, to think not, is amazing.
The EPA has a whole laundry list of stuff like that, you'll be hearing a lot more about it.
It will never happen because you live in a old house or old windows..you cant sell house bs...Obama care rushed..Dont like on on how it was passed...We all know something needs to be done about health insurance..Ive heard about the Michelle plan on schools....Probably not a bad thing instead of the soda and fries.. Not like its in forced.. We American's just keep on getting fatter.. Which boils down to health...Your local voters agreed to it..Like i say to friends etc..If you dont vote..You have no right to bitch..
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Well the children at school have to eat it or go hungry, for some kids in rural America there school lunch is there best one, now it's not even recognizable.
I don't see why u think a house would have to be up to "code" as being hard to beleive
In some states your car has to pass an inspection every year to stay on the road or be sold/traded, house/car no different, it's just another step in a scary direction
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I dont believe it..A old house or anything old is grandfathered.. My parents still have a outhouse on there property that my great grand parents used..Heck I remember using it when I was a kid!..We all know outhouses (old style) are no longer legal..The one on my parents property is still legal due to its on the exact location..Once move its not legal..Now if my parents decide to put there house on the market..It would have no affect on the sale of the house....I know this for a fact...Friends of mine bought a very old house not too long a ago...Outhouse in the barn!
Yup I do live in a state that has to have a car inspection once a year...Real reason its due to my state uses salt to treat the roads in winter and safety as well...It has nothing to for selling purposes....I hear what your saying or thinking though..BIG GOVT..But owning something old and cant sell it until its up to code thats total bs and will never happen
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Well I didn't write the what has been proposed, just passing it along. I don't put anything past big govt, tree huggers and the EPA types could care less about "grandfathered" they would simply say that because people lived that way then has nothing to do with our future.
Since when are outhouses illegal? If there illegal in KY they could fill up a few jails lol
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I cant stand EPA..Pretty much why this country is hurting for jobs...puts the small guy out..perfect example the old style boilers...pretty sure for awhile..I cant build a outhouse and start doing my duties right in the back yard lol...well maybe ky looks the other way lol..too costly to put in jail lol..