Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => Portage & Main => Topic started by: MrDan27611 on December 14, 2012, 07:12:34 PM
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So I've asked enough questions on here. I figured I'd post pics of the install now that it's all done. I'm trying to post photo's for the first time, so forgive me if I mess this up. I tried posting the pics inline. I'm sorry, I couldn't get it to work so I posted the link to the pics.
The old boiler, after removal.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24069905@N02/8274029800/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24069905@N02/8274029800/#)
The hole where the old boiler has just left.
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The new ML42 after we got it onto the concrete (that wasn't easy!)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24069905@N02/8272963413/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24069905@N02/8272963413/#)
I was height limited on a new boiler. We had P&M make the boiler without legs, no fill tube, no lift eye, no cladding, no insulation, etc. Here is how much clearance we had. This is with the boiler sitting flat on the concrete.
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Unfortunately I had a bad weld on the boiler that leaked on the first fill. Fortunately P&M accepted a warranty on it with no hassle. I had a buddy who welded it right away so no downtime.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24069905@N02/8272963893/#in/set-72157631846383780/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24069905@N02/8272963893/#in/set-72157631846383780/)
Closer view of the weld and the leak.
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Boiler in and plumbed, stack cut into roof and tied in.
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I went with spray on insulation for the boiler. It made a mess but it sure does insulate well.
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We added our own cladding to the front of the boiler to tie it in and give a finished look. This is the bottom half already on.
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The rear of the boiler, all insulated.
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The ML42 up and running.
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First fire. I went from 60 degree water to 180 in 3 hours with it 1/3 full of wood.
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Great looking setup!! Nice pics!!
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Nice setup! I like how you have it located in that building.
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looks good
let us know how it compares with ur old furnace
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Would like to know more about the solar panels, is that for summer DHW? Power for the Boiler?
Very nice set up you have there!
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I like some points with the indoor units, my next house might get one
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Would like to know more about the solar panels, is that for summer DHW? Power for the Boiler?
Very nice set up you have there!
The solar panels are for heating the water during the summer. That gives me DHW without firing the boiler, at least in theory. I'm still working out the reality.
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looks good
let us know how it compares with ur old furnace
A compare vs. my old boiler. I had about 110,000 btu of fire capacity with the old one. The Ml42 has about 300k btu. While my old one would be working hard, the new one is loafing.
I'd retrofitted my Aqua 2 with Johnson controls, however I had an issue with creosote clogging up my fan so I was unable to run mine hot enough to idle. Now I can stoke the boiler and leave it to idle. My temperature's are maintained at a much more consistent level.
The fire door is much larger and thanks to the legs I welded on, much higher. It's MUCH easier to load the new boiler.
The aqua 2, when stoking, would still draft properly so I got very little smoke in the face. The new boiler rolls smoke out the door no matter what I do. I smell like smoke quite a bit more often now.
If I could have made my old boiler idle, it would have done a fine job for me. Since I couldn't successfully idle, the ML42 is kicking the old boiler behind.
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Would like to know more about the solar panels, is that for summer DHW? Power for the Boiler?
Very nice set up you have there!
The solar panels are for heating the water during the summer. That gives me DHW without firing the boiler, at least in theory. I'm still working out the reality.
Do you heat the boiler water with the solar panels?
Can you explain your setup?
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Would like to know more about the solar panels, is that for summer DHW? Power for the Boiler?
Very nice set up you have there!
The solar panels are for heating the water during the summer. That gives me DHW without firing the boiler, at least in theory. I'm still working out the reality.
Do you heat the boiler water with the solar panels?
Can you explain your setup?
Yes, the solar panels heat the boiler water through a DHW heat exchanger. Since none of my tie in from the house goes to the boiler itself, you heat the boiler water, then the normal heat loop takes the hot water to the house where all the heat exchanger magic happens in the 500 gallon storage tank, and the mass of copper pipes take things to the proper place.