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Title: DI water for OWB
Post by: jborden3 on January 23, 2013, 12:25:29 PM
Has any one on hear used DI water for your OWB i just installed my boiler and have it up and going now for my house and my shop and hot water in both i did treat my water but was wondering why not use DI water in it as it wont cause any build up in my water jacket should extend the life of the boiler and the pumps and pipping any one have a thought on this lets hear it thanks.
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Bondo on January 23, 2013, 12:29:32 PM
Has any one on hear used DI water for your OWB i just installed my boiler and have it up and going now for my house and my shop and hot water in both i did treat my water but was wondering why not use DI water in it as it wont cause any build up in my water jacket should extend the life of the boiler and the pumps and pipping any one have a thought on this lets hear it thanks.

Ayuh,...   Ok, I admit it, I'm a dummy,....

What's DI water,..??

Btw,....   Unless yer tap water is pure acid, ya don't really need Any treatments, nor Special water...
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 23, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
I don't see the need in it personally.  As long as your municipal source is good I wouldn't worry about it..  Just use your chemicals and it will last, I've saw water come out of boilers many years old as clear as moon shine lol

Just do proper water testing, if you have good water tests ran, you won't get any build up, once every summer drain out 5 gallons, take a magnet on a stick and swirl around the water, pull it out and see if there is any strings hanging from it, thats not good.   Make sure water is sparkling clear, plus pulling 5 gallon off the bottom could help rid some fall out sediments
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: jborden3 on January 23, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
Bondo DI water is demineralized water in the navy we used it in the boilers and at all the distillerys around here they use it in there boilers just thought it would be an added insurance on my investment. it is very slick so if you end up with a leak all you can do is pull the joint apart and repair it.
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 23, 2013, 12:41:48 PM
Wow bondo,

Why are you on here throwing out such ignorant comments????

Do you have any facts to back up anything you say?  Such as dead water?  Or the comment "won't rust hardly as bad"

Wow is all I can say
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on January 23, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Bondo has been making all sorts of rambling comments all over this board today.  I don't know what his deal is.  I wouldn't trust a single word.
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 23, 2013, 01:47:10 PM
Bondo has been making all sorts of rambling comments all over this board today.  I don't know what his deal is.  I wouldn't trust a single word.

Yea...  I like it how people just pop up and have all the answers with nothing to back it up

Often times there thoughts are so far out, a debate can't even take place
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: netwerx-r-us on January 23, 2013, 10:13:36 PM
Wow bondo,

Why are you on here throwing out such ignorant comments????

Do you have any facts to back up anything you say?  Such as dead water?  Or the comment "won't rust hardly as bad"

Wow is all I can say
  that's a bit harsh don't you think ?While we all cant be "experts" we do have the freedom to express our opinions , right,  wrong or indifferent. Sorry Mr Borden for interrupting your post
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 23, 2013, 11:11:44 PM


I work in this field daily and don't like folks seeing bad info, or being referred to as a snake oil salesman by someone who can't back up anything they say.....
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 23, 2013, 11:14:21 PM
Furthermore, experts?  Huh?  I come here to learn the same as anyone. 

Most so called expert have a piece of paper saying so, but the tools dont seem to fit there hands

I am here to help who I can, every situation is a chance for me to learn something as well
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Roger2561 on January 24, 2013, 05:33:12 AM
Furthermore, experts?  Huh?  I come here to learn the same as anyone. 

Most so called expert have a piece of paper saying so, but the tools dont seem to fit there hands

I am here to help who I can, every situation is a chance for me to learn something as well

I work around a lot of "experts" and it is scarey the venom they spew.  They may have a Phd in their field of study but all that tells me is their knowledge is Piled Higher and Deeper (Phd).  If you haven't heard BS (Bachelor of Science)is Bullsh_t, MS (Masters) is More Sh_t, and Phd is simply Piled Higher and Deeper.  Roger
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: jborden3 on January 24, 2013, 06:09:07 AM
Just thought i would put this out there and see what everyone had to say about it. i am pretty sure i can get the DI water for little or nothing which would make it a good deal.
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 24, 2013, 07:24:16 AM
The main things I test for is ph, nitrate levels, and the conductivity of the water.
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Bondo on January 24, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
Bondo DI water is demineralized water in the navy we used it in the boilers and at all the distillerys around here they use it in there boilers just thought it would be an added insurance on my investment. it is very slick so if you end up with a leak all you can do is pull the joint apart and repair it.

Ayuh,...   Thank you,...   Never heard the term before...
That's usually something for Steam boilers as contaminants stay in the system, 'n build up over time...
With our hot Water systems, it ain't nearly as critical...

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Posted by: Scott7m
« on: January 23, 2013, 12:41:48 PM »
Wow bondo,

Why are you on here throwing out such ignorant comments?

Do you have any facts to back up anything you say?  Such as dead water?  Or the comment "won't rust hardly as bad"

Wow is all I can say

I'm abit new here, 'n with welcomes like yer's, I can see why traffic is so slow at this website,...
Personal attacks are not very nice, 'n forbidden at most forums...

I'll gladly answer yer questions in the thread noted, NOT in this 1....
Just so ya know, that's called stayin' On Topic, insteada throwin Ship at other posters...

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Posted by: Scott7m
« on: January 23, 2013, 01:47:10 PM »
Quote from: CountryBoyJohn on January 23, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Bondo has been making all sorts of rambling comments all over this board today.  I don't know what his deal is.  I wouldn't trust a single word.

Yea...  I like it how people just pop up and have all the answers with nothing to back it up

Often times there thoughts are so far out, a debate can't even take place

Pay attention countrykid, ya might learn something, other than how to be Rude...

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Posted by: Scott7m
« on: January 23, 2013, 11:11:44 PM »
Sorry, he went around all over the site spouting nonsense.. 

I guess I should be politically correct lol

Sorry, thats not how I operate. 

A differing opinion is to be respected, outright ignorance is not something I entertain

I work in this field daily and don't like folks seeing bad info, or being referred to as a snake oil salesman by someone who can't back up anything they say.....

You seem to be quite comfortable expressin' Ignorance......

I'm sorry I didn't sit here all day, refreshin' my browser, just to answer yer comments callin' Me ignorant...
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: ijon on January 24, 2013, 08:44:49 AM
I have used soft water in my woodboiler since I bought it. If that helps.
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: rick w on January 24, 2013, 11:26:09 AM
whooooooooooooo boys slow down
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: willieG on January 24, 2013, 03:41:38 PM
open system boilers such as we use,, al ittle minerals or dirt don't h urt too much...high pressure steam boilers use the cleanest water thay can manufacture as some boilers (like those at a power plant) may run as high or higher than 1200 psi steam and tiny tiny grain of something like a mineral can travel through the pipes under so much pressur it can act like a sand blaster and at an elbow it can start wearing thorugh in no time.

i have worked in plants where the water is so pure it can actually harm you if you were to drink it because it will suck the minerals from your body to try and "equalize" while it is in your system
Title: Re: DI water for OWB
Post by: Scott7m on January 24, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
Not all water is the same, that's why a broad based treatment plan is used

My grandpa has a well with galvanized fittings and pipe in it, it's been in there since the 50's. You can unthread the fittings by hand and they look new

1 mile down the road my dad put a well in, it was so corrosive it would eat brass valves up in 2-3 years