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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: bettwin on February 02, 2013, 04:55:11 AM

Title: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: bettwin on February 02, 2013, 04:55:11 AM
Ok boys I have a 23yr old 100 heatmor, she is starting to rust out in spots. Had to patch the other day. >:( I am older women and looking to update my furance. Have a 2,600 sq ft house live in wis do my own wood.  Been looking at the gasification stove as I don't like to pick up the 50lb block of wood anymore. There is not alot of info or people that have these stove and most of the dealers around here just are trying to talk me out of it. give me your wealth of knowledge please.
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: franky1 on February 02, 2013, 07:49:57 AM
www.portageandmainboilers.com (http://www.portageandmainboilers.com)
but with ur age,,,I would rather pay my hydro bill.
lol
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: rick w on February 02, 2013, 08:53:43 AM
bettwin goodmorning iam on my 3rd year with a portage&main what a sweet boiler.what part of wisc i am in spooner i bought my boiler from dave jacoby in trego his # 1 715 214 -6683 or his email is heatsmart@ymail.com so far this year i have burned 5 cords started the season sept1. i heat a 28x40 garage and a house about the same size. if you call sometimes he has some special demo units. these boilers are so nice to take care of with the ash pan large fill door, chimney can be cleaned from the ground. give dave a call see what he has happy burning rick
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: Scott7m on February 02, 2013, 10:15:31 AM
Empyre has more gassers than anyone, 6 of which are EPA phase 2 approved

Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: bettwin on February 03, 2013, 05:49:44 AM
I live in central wis. The boiler lines are buried 5 ft deep with 2 inch foam insulation with sand poured around them, that's how they did it back then I guess. The lines are 2 inches and a half of an inch thick. I have been trying to get info on the empyre pro 200, central boiler E classic 1450, Hawkens GX 10. So far the E Classic has the best web sites and info.  I cannot find anyone in the sate that has anyone of these in use.
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: baldwin racing on February 03, 2013, 08:04:49 AM
I live in central wis. The boiler lines are buried 5 ft deep with 2 inch foam insulation with sand poured around them, that's how they did it back then I guess. The lines are 2 inches and a half of an inch thick. I have been trying to get info on the empyre pro 200, central boiler E classic 1450, Hawkens GX 10. So far the E Classic has the best web sites and info.  I cannot find anyone in the sate that has anyone of these in use.

maybe look into (www.nationalstoveworks.com (http://www.nationalstoveworks.com)) thermal-control 20 year warranty non prorated they have outdoor boilers and are a pressurized system..... they have ben in buisness for over 37 years. I have the owner Tim personal cell number if you would like to talk to him with any ? 's you may have....let us know what you end going with......
kelly
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: Scott7m on February 03, 2013, 09:08:02 AM
I live in central wis. The boiler lines are buried 5 ft deep with 2 inch foam insulation with sand poured around them, that's how they did it back then I guess. The lines are 2 inches and a half of an inch thick. I have been trying to get info on the empyre pro 200, central boiler E classic 1450, Hawkens GX 10. So far the E Classic has the best web sites and info.  I cannot find anyone in the sate that has anyone of these in use.

maybe look into (www.nationalstoveworks.com (http://www.nationalstoveworks.com)) thermal-control 20 year warranty non prorated they have outdoor boilers and are a pressurized system..... they have ben in buisness for over 37 years. I have the owner Tim personal cell number if you would like to talk to him with any ? 's you may have....let us know what you end going with......
kelly

I think in Wisconsin a pressurized boiler requires some kind of permit or something RSI was telling me about, he said it was basically $1000 additional cost per boiler

Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: baldwin racing on February 03, 2013, 10:39:50 AM
I live in central wis. The boiler lines are buried 5 ft deep with 2 inch foam insulation with sand poured around them, that's how they did it back then I guess. The lines are 2 inches and a half of an inch thick. I have been trying to get info on the empyre pro 200, central boiler E classic 1450, Hawkens GX 10. So far the E Classic has the best web sites and info.  I cannot find anyone in the sate that has anyone of these in use.

maybe look into (www.nationalstoveworks.com (http://www.nationalstoveworks.com)) thermal-control 20 year warranty non prorated they have outdoor boilers and are a pressurized system..... they have ben in buisness for over 37 years. I have the owner Tim personal cell number if you would like to talk to him with any ? 's you may have....let us know what you end going with......
kelly

I think in Wisconsin a pressurized boiler requires some kind of permit or something RSI was telling me about, he said it was basically $1000 additional cost per boiler

ok scott i did not know that....it is low pressure boiler same as house boiler 15psi and under?
kelly
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: Scott7m on February 03, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
I live in central wis. The boiler lines are buried 5 ft deep with 2 inch foam insulation with sand poured around them, that's how they did it back then I guess. The lines are 2 inches and a half of an inch thick. I have been trying to get info on the empyre pro 200, central boiler E classic 1450, Hawkens GX 10. So far the E Classic has the best web sites and info.  I cannot find anyone in the sate that has anyone of these in use.

maybe look into (www.nationalstoveworks.com (http://www.nationalstoveworks.com)) thermal-control 20 year warranty non prorated they have outdoor boilers and are a pressurized system..... they have ben in buisness for over 37 years. I have the owner Tim personal cell number if you would like to talk to him with any ? 's you may have....let us know what you end going with......
kelly

I think in Wisconsin a pressurized boiler requires some kind of permit or something RSI was telling me about, he said it was basically $1000 additional cost per boiler

ok scott i did not know that....it is low pressure boiler same as house boiler 15psi and under?
kelly

Yea, there is some strange laws...  They vary from state to state, pressurized has benefits but these laws are crazy sometimes
KY has laws that are different for residential boilers and business ran boilers, it's all nutty
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: idahohay on February 03, 2013, 06:13:25 PM
Bettwin, why not just get another Heatmor 100? I'm sure you could get by loading with smaller wood even if you have to adjust your feeding schedule slightly.  Any others out there with owb's that have been in service over 23yrs?
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: MattyNH on February 03, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
I live in central wis. The boiler lines are buried 5 ft deep with 2 inch foam insulation with sand poured around them, that's how they did it back then I guess. The lines are 2 inches and a half of an inch thick. I have been trying to get info on the empyre pro 200, central boiler E classic 1450, Hawkens GX 10. So far the E Classic has the best web sites and info.  I cannot find anyone in the sate that has anyone of these in use.

maybe look into (www.nationalstoveworks.com (http://www.nationalstoveworks.com)) thermal-control 20 year warranty non prorated they have outdoor boilers and are a pressurized system..... they have ben in buisness for over 37 years. I have the owner Tim personal cell number if you would like to talk to him with any ? 's you may have....let us know what you end going with......
kelly

I think in Wisconsin a pressurized boiler requires some kind of permit or something RSI was telling me about, he said it was basically $1000 additional cost per boiler

ok scott i did not know that....it is low pressure boiler same as house boiler 15psi and under?
kelly
Actually Scott according to  www.co.la-crosse.wi.us (http://www.co.la-crosse.wi.us)  section 11.54 of the outdoor wood - fired furnace code.  for la-crosse county wi. All outdoor wood-fired furnace installations require a permit..Not just the pressurized ones.. Maybe what RSI told you..could be different for that county
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: Scott7m on February 03, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
That county may have there own law on top of the state one perhaps, I'm not sure. 
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: willieG on February 03, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
That county may have there own law on top of the state one perhaps, I'm not sure.
if i was replacing an open loop boiler like is there allready i would'nt pull no permit..if there has been one there for over 20 years i would just say i painted it
Title: Re: Help need to update boiler 23yrs old?
Post by: willieG on February 03, 2013, 08:13:09 PM
i live 500 feet from my township's office and we also have a by law for OWB..i built mine, installed it, and it runs all winter long. I have never seen the bylaw officer yet in 11 years. they got better things to do than chase a guy around over a wood stove...they likley would come out to just collect on a permit?