Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: freefour on April 05, 2013, 10:17:14 AM
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Hello all...got a silly question. I am a week in with my new stove and I love the heat.
However, I am already to the point where I dread loading it in the morning. No matter what I have tried or waited, I get tons of smoke rolling over me and my coat and clothes stink up the house coming back in. My neighbor told me he kicks his heat up waits for it to start burning before loading. I tried that but flames are shooting out like crazy. Seems kinda dangerous.
Any ideas?
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You could load it up while naked, then your clothes and coat wouldn't stink....
Usually opening the bottom door works for me to push the smoke out the stack. If its coming out the stack and falling back down then you could install a higher stack.
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Check this one out, it's smoking like this all the time
(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t387/Scott7m/BB34FDDB-9602-4108-915B-893BE8E023A7-1869-000003417CDE0860.jpg)
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Man that's bad, I may have seen that once with my setup but it quickly goes almost invisible.
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I have a Hardy also, open the bottom door before loading, I've had a ball of fire blow out of the loading door if you don't. Also the pic looks as though you're at the bottom of the hill, in the valley maybe, try adding a section or two of pipe. Thats a lot of smoke though mine only smokes that way right after loading 5 or so minutes till its hot.
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Check this one out, it's smoking like this all the time
Mine hasn't done that yet!! I've seen it smoke a little when I first load it. I wonder what kind of wood they are burning?
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That pic shows you why the outdoor wood boiler is always on the hot seat! What brand is that? I noticed not too far from me, Someone has that exact looking boiler setup ...Smelling like smoke after reloading..Well thats the territory of owning a owb it seems..
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I also smell like smoke after reloading but im a mechanic
Mine smokes pretty bad if i load it with dry kiln lumber scraps
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Mine will smoke like that when some on the air holes are clogged, or the wood is wet, or I stack it wrong, or the water temp got to low, but most of the time I get it all right and it smokes less.
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He burns all hardwoods but doesn't take care of it the best
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My OWB smokes the absolute most when you first fill it up..
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Add an extension on the stack and then open the ash pan a bit before opening the main door. That will help get the smoke up by causing a natural draft up the stack. I always load the furnace after I'm done for the day and just before taking a shower.
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Add an extension on the stack and then open the ash pan a bit before opening the main door. That will help get the smoke up by causing a natural draft up the stack. I always load the furnace after I'm done for the day and just before taking a shower.
Im 19ft up yoder..Makes no difference..Your still gonna get the scent of fire on your clothing
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Wow, so glad I went with a gasser from portage and main. Have never seen smoke like that coming from mine and rarely get a smoke smell on me while loading
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Wow, so glad I went with a gasser from portage and main. Have never seen smoke like that coming from mine and rarely get a smoke smell on me while loading
Gassers do smoke far less on average though but I've posted videos on here before burning both wood and coal smoke free in a conventional unit. It's a lot to do with how you run a unit and how you take care of your fuel
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Mine will smoke like that when some on the air holes are clogged, or the wood is wet, or I stack it wrong, or the water temp got to low, but most of the time I get it all right and it smokes less.
How do you stack the wood wrong to make it smoke more?
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If you're not already doing so, only put enough wood in it to last to the next time you plan on putting wood in it. I burn dry wood and each time I put wood in it, there is only a small amount of ashes from the previous fill and I have very little smoke ever.
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Mine will smoke like that when some on the air holes are clogged, or the wood is wet, or I stack it wrong, or the water temp got to low, but most of the time I get it all right and it smokes less.
How do you stack the wood wrong to make it smoke more?
You can make a gasser smoke like crazy if your wood is stacked wrong, wrong though would depend on his particular model
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Just have the wife load it and you'll never smell like smoke :D
Seriously though, I installed a bypass switch to kick the blower on a for a few seconds to clear the chamber. Sometimes I leave it going while im loading and sometimes I shut it off if it just ran and the fire is to intense. Either way, I hardly get any smoke rolling out and i dont worry about opening the door and getting a flash fire.
Just dont leave the switch on :)
I also installed a light on the unit to indicate the switch is on and the fan is running. If wired inline with the overload snap disk, theres no rosk of overheat if you forget. Works great and I love seeing the smal red light from the house to tell if its running. If it runs too long, I know I need to truck out there and fill it up. Whole thing took about 2hrs tops. Not sure what this would do for Warrenty though.
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Just have the wife load it and you'll never smell like smoke :D
Seriously though, I installed a bypass switch to kick the blower on a for a few seconds to clear the chamber. Sometimes I leave it going while im loading and sometimes I shut it off if it just ran and the fire is to intense. Either way, I hardly get any smoke rolling out and i dont worry about opening the door and getting a flash fire.
Just dont leave the switch on :)
I also installed a light on the unit to indicate the switch is on and the fan is running. If wired inline with the overload snap disk, theres no rosk of overheat if you forget. Works great and I love seeing the smal red light from the house to tell if its running. If it runs too long, I know I need to truck out there and fill it up. Whole thing took about 2hrs tops. Not sure what this would do for Warrenty though.
Won't affect your warranty I don't think.. Good ideas.
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I load in the morning while mommas in the shower. Also keep my “loading clothes” in the mud room. After I’m done I get ready for work.
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Seriously though, I installed a bypass switch to kick the blower on a for a few seconds to clear the chamber. Sometimes I leave it going while im loading and sometimes I shut it off if it just ran and the fire is to intense. Either way, I hardly get any smoke rolling out and i dont worry about opening the door and getting a flash fire.
That sounds like a great idea. I'm not sure how to wire it up though. Any ideas?
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Gassers don't like huge chunk of wood like the utube videos that show guys using home made machines to pick of 500lb chunk of wood that will make a gasser smoke
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Seriously though, I installed a bypass switch to kick the blower on a for a few seconds to clear the chamber. Sometimes I leave it going while im loading and sometimes I shut it off if it just ran and the fire is to intense. Either way, I hardly get any smoke rolling out and i dont worry about opening the door and getting a flash fire.
That sounds like a great idea. I'm not sure how to wire it up though. Any ideas?
Im not Familiar with the wiring diagram of a Hardy but you are looking to place a switch in paralell with the aquastat making sure you are not bypassing the thermal overload protection (usually a small snap disk wired in series en route to the draft fan)
It would be best if you had a wiring diagram or possibly had a friend who was good with wiring help you. Doesnt take long to do, but you want to make sure its right or you could overheat your unit if you forget the switch, leave it on, and walk away leaving the forced draft on. A twist timer switch may be a good idea also as a precaution so it can only go for like 15min before turing off automatically.
In this setup once completed, if the aquastat is already is calling for heat and the fan is on, the switch will do nothing. It only works when the unit is at idle, which is helpful for clearing the chamber of smoke by opening the damper and turning the fan on etc.
Works well. I use mine daily and am very glad I put it in. It beats having to change the aquastat temp to get it to kick on when I want.
Clear as mud - LOL - Thought so :)
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Check this one out, it's smoking like this all the time
(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t387/Scott7m/BB34FDDB-9602-4108-915B-893BE8E023A7-1869-000003417CDE0860.jpg)
Look at what it is, it's just a box inside a box and filled with water so the fire never gets hot enough to burn the smoke. When I see that I think of all the wasted energy (smoke ) going right up the chimney, this should be reburned and turned into real heat as the newer gasification boilers do and let me say the claims of burning half the wood can be very accurate, I am certainly not a tree hugger but why cut more wood than you have to. Maybe I'm just lazy or I don't like to aggravate the neighbors, that same brand at one time was the #1 priority boiler on my states DEP hit list, it was installed 15 feet from the neighbors property line (a large catholic church) and ran for years but they removed it last year.
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Wow, so glad I went with a gasser from portage and main. Have never seen smoke like that coming from mine and rarely get a smoke smell on me while loading
WOW thanks for the plug thats what I sell and service, if you ever need advice or parts keep me in mind, that flame down below will someday produce power, can you imagine heating your home and producing power as well while still burning half the wood as a conventional boiler, what a great boiler they build,not cheap but great value.
Richard
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Check this one out, it's smoking like this all the time
(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t387/Scott7m/BB34FDDB-9602-4108-915B-893BE8E023A7-1869-000003417CDE0860.jpg)
Look at what it is, it's just a box inside a box and filled with water so the fire never gets hot enough to burn the smoke. When I see that I think of all the wasted energy (smoke ) going right up the chimney, this should be reburned and turned into real heat as the newer gasification boilers do and let me say the claims of burning half the wood can be very accurate, I am certainly not a tree hugger but why cut more wood than you have to. Maybe I'm just lazy or I don't like to aggravate the neighbors, that same brand at one time was the #1 priority boiler on my states DEP hit list, it was installed 15 feet from the neighbors property line (a large catholic church) and ran for years but they removed it last year.
this is how i fill mine in the morning.Get the blood flowing. If you notice there is little smoke.
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lmao now thats funny.
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Hahahahaha that was my suggestion. No smoke smell on your clothes if you don't have any on : ). I usually wear at least boxers, but mine is only 10 feet out my back door and there is a shelter next too it with all my wood under it. Looks like you have quite the trek through the snow to fill yours up : ).
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Must be he just got done layin some pipe
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! LMFAO!! Good one. :thumbup:
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its about 60' from the house. My girlfriend took the pic.
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I agree with Scott last year I burned green huge wood. But I split it a lot smaller this year under 6" that way it dries faster! I have a hardy and I can make it smoke like that but with the smaller stuff I get very little smoke and once the blower gets going all I see is some heat coming out of stack! I know this fall ill cover my stack to keep it dry! I believe it's all in how you fire them and prep your wood. But I know a lot of guys around me here in ohio that cut today and use today, but to each his own