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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: Scott7m on September 28, 2013, 07:39:28 PM

Title: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 28, 2013, 07:39:28 PM
Gotta say I'm looking forward to this heating season more than ever.....  I've got a lot going on and I'm going to be implementing some new stuff this year.

  On the agenda:  first of all, I'm going to re plumb my plumbing in my crawl space, yea, kinda boring... 

Then I'm going to be installing a temperature monitor system which will give me real time data of temp and delta xt's across each exchanger that will be accessible on my phone or anywhere I can access the Internet.  Gonna love that, thanks to RSI!!!

Second, new pump experiment.  Electric use on the pumps is something many ignore but being a efficiency nut and having solar power, I decided to go after the most efficient I can.  I'll be installing a Taco Bumblee!  How it works!!  It has 2 temp sensors, one on supply other on return, when the delta t is minimal, the pump knows there is no heat load and slows down to as low as 9 watts of power draw, as soon as I start pulling heat, it increased speed to keep the delta t inside the parameters that I have set, get it?  Cool huh
Best of all, this pump will only pull 40 watts on high.  Will it be more efficient in wood usage too??  We shall see, let's face it, ALL underground pipe loses some heat, if I send less btu through the pipe on average, will that mean less btu lost, I hope so

Third. Proformer, I've sold quite a bit of this and folks tell me it's good stuff even though I've yet to use it, it's not ashtrol and sure as hell ain't lime. This product is said to put a coating on the steel, especially if used since new, and it also adjusts ph of the ash bed as well, you add a little spoon full a day on top of your wood.  What will this do?  Hopefully it will keep the firebox cleaner, the flues cleaner, which will make everything more efficient!!! 

4th, a new stove, going to be testing what could become a new model of stove.  I'm not ready to tell what it is or anything like that, but will just say its something I'm really excited about.  If things pan out over the winter and the company allows me to talk about it I will, but I'm absolutely thrilled going into this winter, I absolutely love outdoor wood furnaces and everything that's involved with them.  Hard to tell that huh?!   :thumbup:
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: beeman on September 29, 2013, 06:34:45 AM
great to hear about the new stove ,be shure to tell us the aventur putting lines in crawl space
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 29, 2013, 07:12:51 AM
I'm not sure yet what there suppose to retail at, I've got about $170 in this one....
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 29, 2013, 07:23:42 AM
Total feet of pex, size of pex, type of heat exchangers it's going through and size
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 29, 2013, 07:34:51 AM
Yea...   Fittings would be needed to but the 3/4" pex already killed any chance it had of working for you.....  Sucks
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: johnybcold on September 29, 2013, 07:57:09 AM
Never heard of that pump, but  I am gonna have to goggle it sounds like a energy saver to me .
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: plumb bob on September 29, 2013, 08:46:40 AM
Gotta say I'm looking forward to this heating season more than ever.....  I've got a lot going on and I'm going to be implementing some new stuff this year.

  On the agenda:  first of all, I'm going to re plumb my plumbing in my crawl space, yea, kinda boring... 

Then I'm going to be installing a temperature monitor system which will give me real time data of temp and delta xt's across each exchanger that will be accessible on my phone or anywhere I can access the Internet.  Gonna love that, thanks to RSI!!!

Second, new pump experiment.  Electric use on the pumps is something many ignore but being a efficiency nut and having solar power, I decided to go after the most efficient I can.  I'll be installing a Taco Bumblee!  How it works!!  It has 2 temp sensors, one on supply other on return, when the delta t is minimal, the pump knows there is no heat load and slows down to as low as 9 watts of power draw, as soon as I start pulling heat, it increased speed to keep the delta t inside the parameters that I have set, get it?  Cool huh
Best of all, this pump will only pull 40 watts on high.  Will it be more efficient in wood usage too??  We shall see, let's face it, ALL underground pipe loses some heat, if I send less btu through the pipe on average, will that mean less btu lost, I hope so

Third. Proformer, I've sold quite a bit of this and folks tell me it's good stuff even though I've yet to use it, it's not ashtrol and sure as hell ain't lime. This product is said to put a coating on the steel, especially if used since new, and it also adjusts ph of the ash bed as well, you add a little spoon full a day on top of your wood.  What will this do?  Hopefully it will keep the firebox cleaner, the flues cleaner, which will make everything more efficient!!! 

4th, a new stove, going to be testing what could become a new model of stove.  I'm not ready to tell what it is or anything like that, but will just say its something I'm really excited about.  If things pan out over the winter and the company allows me to talk about it I will, but I'm absolutely thrilled going into this winter, I absolutely love outdoor wood furnaces and everything that's involved with them.  Hard to tell that huh?!   :thumbup:

Scott,
would you ship to northern Wisconsin, the proformer.
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 29, 2013, 11:22:02 AM
Yes sir, we ship it everywhere

A 20 pound bucket should last a year or more

It's cheap insurance, by adjusting ph of the ash bed alone it could add some life to your stove
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 29, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
Is the Taco pump I have the right size for what I have now?

Yea it's fine, the 3/4" pex really hurts the flow and is why u have to have such a large pump
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 29, 2013, 12:40:14 PM
Yea unless you have a boocoo of elbows it will likely work for you, for you have average number of elbows it would flow 5-6 gallon a minute on high
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: stratton on September 30, 2013, 02:30:46 AM
Scott,
i read your post daily. keep em coming .Also I have a taco bumble bee. starts out at 42 watt 13 gal per min when it reaches delta it slows down to 7 watt 6 gal per min My set up is indoors, It is super quiet!!!


Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: Scott7m on September 30, 2013, 07:49:02 AM
Scott,
i read your post daily. keep em coming .Also I have a taco bumble bee. starts out at 42 watt 13 gal per min when it reaches delta it slows down to 7 watt 6 gal per min My set up is indoors, It is super quiet!!!

Sounds good man.  Will do!
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: fryedaddy on September 30, 2013, 10:25:40 AM
Scott,

Pm me the details on Proformer, I'd like to try some this season.
Title: Re: I'm fired up
Post by: plumb bob on September 30, 2013, 01:55:45 PM
Scott,

Pm me the details on Proformer, I'd like to try some this season.

Ditto Scott, if you wouldn't mind.