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Title: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: DaveWertz on October 27, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
I am trying to get a video of me buring cardboard to help with the cleanout of creasote. Well my stove is still really clean and I want to get a video asap to send to some other members on here. Maybe some of you can post a small clip of you doing it then maybe it will get cold enough for me to finally get one, I just dont want to do one if I dont have build up. I wouldnt mind seeing a big ball of fire coming out of other stoves besides mine lol. Maybe this week I will try to get one..... Hopefully some of you will be able to post some good videos!
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on October 28, 2013, 06:44:46 AM
I haven't had to do it this year...  I'm running a stove almost 3x to large for my home while testing a new design, which should result in a lot of creosote, however I have been using pro former and it's kept the creosote from getting bad.  Cleaned the top passes on my stove yesterday after a month of warm weather use and there was just some powder in it, nothing sticky at all
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on October 28, 2013, 06:49:59 AM
How often should be burn off the creasote?  My fire box is coated pretty evenly without any "runs" down the sides, and the water side of the first by-pass has some on it.  My upper pass is completely dry.  I've been burning for 2 weeks with light to medium loads.  I scrape off my door jams every few loads.   
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on October 28, 2013, 07:12:35 AM
It just varies, wood quality, heat load, all that stuff.  Just when you see it start to get nasty, then you can clear it out with a hot fast burn
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: freefour on October 28, 2013, 08:38:31 AM
I am unsure what qualifies as "nasty" and still uncertain what warrants a good cleaning.  I've had mine going a week now and it's got black gunk around the inside of the door about 1/4" thick.  Gets all over my gloves when loading.  It's easy to scrape off.  I noticed at the top I see little bumps of creosote.  I have been burning softwood mostly this week.  It is seasoned.  I will say there hasn't been a lot of heat load this week either except at night when it's got down in the 40s. 
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: netwerx-r-us on October 30, 2013, 06:11:08 PM
I am also seeing a lot of creosote on inside , its warm again so it will idle next 2-3 days , can some one describe the the steps so i can burn mine out , ill try and get a video of it


Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on October 30, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
I am also seeing a lot of creosote on inside , its warm again so it will idle next 2-3 days , can some one describe the the steps so i can burn mine out , ill try and get a video of it

Collect a firebox full of card board, open bottom door to turn canon and let it roar til the paper burns up, it should make a super hot intense fire that burns the creosote off
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on October 30, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
Opening bottom door works best if u have that option once it gets roarin
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: MattyNH on October 30, 2013, 07:04:50 PM
Burned 2 cardboard boxes today...Works very well lol..
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on October 30, 2013, 07:27:22 PM
Burned 2 cardboard boxes today...Works very well lol..

I'm tellin ya it does dont it lol

People think I'm nuts telling them that
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: MattyNH on October 30, 2013, 07:38:48 PM
Burned 2 cardboard boxes today...Works very well lol..

I'm tellin ya it does dont it lol

People think I'm nuts telling them that
I agree with ya lol...Its the thing to do..Burns Hot!
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: SOHIO on October 31, 2013, 06:00:56 AM
I am also seeing a lot of creosote on inside , its warm again so it will idle next 2-3 days , can some one describe the the steps so i can burn mine out , ill try and get a video of it

Collect a firebox full of card board, open bottom door to turn canon and let it roar til the paper burns up, it should make a super hot intense fire that burns the creosote off


Scott, about how many 12x12 boxes do you burn?
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: fryedaddy on October 31, 2013, 06:36:46 AM
I can reach my back box and the chimney fairly easy on my unit.

I normally add a few pieces of news paper into the flue.
That really cleans the flue out!!!
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on October 31, 2013, 07:56:48 AM
I am also seeing a lot of creosote on inside , its warm again so it will idle next 2-3 days , can some one describe the the steps so i can burn mine out , ill try and get a video of it

Collect a firebox full of card board, open bottom door to turn canon and let it roar til the paper burns up, it should make a super hot intense fire that burns the creosote off


Scott, about how many 12x12 boxes do you burn?

A firebox full or em
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: automan77 on November 03, 2013, 04:04:10 PM
works good burned a bunch in mine the other day
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: victor6deep on November 03, 2013, 05:36:41 PM
I wanna see a video of a ridgewood boiling over due to a sticking chain on the air door. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Marktk on November 06, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
So when you do this burning cardboard do you bypass the control or turn it up or wait untill the water is quit cool?
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on November 06, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
I wanna see a video of a ridgewood boiling over due to a sticking chain on the air door. :thumbup:

They don't have chains on the flap, it's a spring.  They switched that about a year ago and made it available to anyone.   

Wow, one minute u want one, the next u hate them..   Lamictal maybe!?  Lol
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Boydz on November 06, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
So when you do this burning cardboard do you bypass the control or turn it up or wait until the water is quit cool?

Mark, When I do my Heatmaster 10KE I pick a warmer day and let the fire die down or crank the heat in the house with little to no wood in the box to cool the water load and let the water cool to like 100deg or so and then load it up with cardboard, as much as I can get my hands on, and then let it rip with the door open. Sometimes I open the bottom ashpan drawer after its going good, and after Ive scraped and emptied it out in advance. Be aware the flames WILL be rolling out the door and upwards a few feet as well as flying pieces of paper if the cardboard is small. This intense fire rolling out the door will burn off the pretty little sticker / placard at the top of the door on the heatmasters so be aware. Your insulated chimney extension if so equipped will also most likely catch fire on the inside and burn intense shooting a small flame out the top also- This is a good thing, meaning its burning up the creosote :) Dont just light the thing and walk away if its close to any combustibles etc. Be smart and watch it. I've never had an issue but its good practice to be prepared. Once the water reaches your setpoint (180deg +- ) it'll shut the fan down and the fire will die down if it hasn't already, at which time you can load it full again with wood and close everything back up (ash pan included)
FYI, If you try to do this with the door closed it wont be able to get enough oxygen to the fire and you will a slower burn which will not be intense or hot enough to accomplish the task at hand. The blower just isnt strong enough to deliver the amount of air needed.

You know you got it right, when everything turns white :)
Yes, Im a poet  -LOL

Happy Pyro !!
-Ryan  8)

Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: slimjim on November 07, 2013, 04:14:48 AM
Glad you mentioned sticking around while burning it out! Up here in Maine, the DEP regulations (chapter 150) clearly states that you can burn clean wood only, no cardboard or paper, talk about a useless law, how could they possibly enforce such a rule.
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Scott7m on November 07, 2013, 07:15:54 AM
Boydz are you leaving top door open????  Hope not but it should be able to draw plenty through ash drawer
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Boydz on November 07, 2013, 10:28:38 PM
Haha - Maybe I'm not supposed to but I do. I cant seem to get enough air flow otherwise. I've even opened the top bypass door and it draws the flame up and around into that chamber and up the flue. I've only done that when it was pretty bad from burning fresh cut for awhile since I didn't have a stock pile last year when it was new. I'm in better shape this year  - I hope - Gulp ;)
If I'm doing it wrong - I stand corrected and maybe ill try it with the door shut and removing the ash pan totally out and see what that does.
I've got some old magnesium wheels that burn pretty hot too- LOL

FYI - I installed that add on air chamber they sent me and it really makes a difference adding air to the top side of the fire !! Im a big fan. Doesn't smoke near as bad on a fresh load. It could actually use more air to make it even better. Id love to install an O2 sensor on the exhaust stack and meter the intake supply to perfection via intelligence programming. I'm sure it can be done.

Anyhow - Luv my Stove !!
Title: Re: Maybe some videos of buring out creasote using cardboard?
Post by: Marktk on November 11, 2013, 11:17:44 AM
Add on air chamber. Whats that about.   For a heatmaster?