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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: Sweetgum and Hackberry on November 12, 2013, 08:29:54 PM

Title: Research on water stoves
Post by: Sweetgum and Hackberry on November 12, 2013, 08:29:54 PM
I live in western piedmont of North Carolina. Considering a waterstove. Have burnt a woodstove in the lower floor of house and managed to stay fairly comfortable. House has ducts and heat pump. Biggest problem with woodstove is outer rooms are 10 to 15 degrees cooler than main living space. Taylor stoves are sold and common here. The 450 is what I was told to look at. Main floor is over a basement/garage and is 1800 sq. ft. Second floor is 800 sq. ft. Any suggestions are well appreciated as I consider my options. I thought of adding coils into existing ductwork and am trying to determine how this works. Just found this site so have not looked in depth here.
Title: Re: Research on water stoves
Post by: Scott7m on November 13, 2013, 07:45:57 AM
Plenty of options available to you.  Taylor imo is kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel but read around on here and look at reviews and complaints and see who is happy with there units.  Things have came a long way since the Taylor was designed. 

Its very simple to tie into an existing duct work system with the heat exchangers
Title: Re: Research on water stoves
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on November 13, 2013, 07:54:29 AM
Welcome to the board! That is the problem with a wood stove, it is difficult to move that warm air from the source to the outlying rooms. Having an outdoor wood boiler ( or water stove as my Hardy says on the name plate) can allow you to operate your heating system in the house just as if you were using oil or gas. How it would work in your system is simple. Your wood boiler would be outside, you dig a trench and place insulated pex piping in the ground which carries the hot water from the stove into your home. At this point you would place a water to air heat exchanger into the supply plenum of your heating system which would take the water from the incoming pex piping, flow it through the water to air exchanger and then send it back to the wood boiler outside to be reheated. Your thermostat in the house would be hooked to your fan on your heating system only so that when it calls for heat it will turn on your forced hot air fan for the home without turning on your oil or gas furnace, push air through the water to air heat exchanger and exchange that nice hot 180 degree water and move it throughout your house. Some down sides to the outdoor wood boiler in comparison to the stove is that if you purchase a non gassification model you will be going through most likely 8-10 cords of wood or more. Gassification model wood boilers go through less wood but are about 3-4000 more expensive. I know that Taylor and Hardy are somewhat popular down there but they are very antiquated as far as technology goes for non gassification stoves. Look around the forum and see which boiler you like, talk to scottm on here or slimj. Both are dealers and very knowledgeable. If you look around on Craigslist you should be able to find a used boiler for 3-4k or buy a new one for 7k plus. Good luck.
Title: Re: Research on water stoves
Post by: fryedaddy on November 13, 2013, 09:20:45 AM
If your in the Western Piedmont check out Hicks Waterstove in Mt. Airy, N.C..

They are indoor units if you can fit one. It works like the other outdoor units only moves
the unit into your basement or shop.

He has several designs and sizes to work with.
Title: Re: Research on water stoves
Post by: baldwin racing on November 14, 2013, 04:38:27 AM
If your in the Western Piedmont check out Hicks Waterstove in Mt. Airy, N.C..

They are indoor units if you can fit one. It works like the other outdoor units only moves
the unit into your basement or shop.

He has several designs and sizes to work with.

you can also look into Thermo-Control wood boilers and hot water stoves. www.nationalstoveworks.com (http://www.nationalstoveworks.com) they sell indoor boilers out door boilers and hot water stoves as well. Hot water stoves run heating water coiles in fire box verse boiler has hot water jacket around out side of fire box....you can get them in an insulated jacket to hold more heat in stove...as well these units are pressurized like a reglar house boiler..... and back with 20 year non prorated warranty.... I have the owners personal cell number if you like to talk to him direct.with any ?s
Kelly
Title: Re: Research on water stoves
Post by: 46mech on November 14, 2013, 04:41:16 PM
I have a Taylor 450 that I installed and just started about 6wks. ago. Only bought it because I got a deal on it. What I've noticed is it does not naturally draft. It uses a forced draft fan on the door to get air. The other thing is the tubes in the back of the firebox need attention at least every week or two. (That's burning seasoned oak) I'm new to the wood boiler world, but have been poking around here for about a year or so and have to agree that Scott and slimjim have a lot of invaluable advice. Look around and explore your options. Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: Research on water stoves
Post by: woodwalker2010 on November 14, 2013, 08:10:29 PM
I live in the mountains of N.C and know several folks with a owb. Some have Central Boiler, others have Earth Wood, and I know a couple that have a Hicks Water Stove from Mount Airy. Everyone of them like their stove. I have a Portage and Main. Very pleased with it. If I would of had a good place to put it I would have probably bought one of the Hick's stove. Price is good and I have heard the customer service is great as well. They make several models to pick from and can custom make one as well I think. What ever you get, don't try to cut corners on the install and you can't go wrong. My stove is the best investment I've made, (other than my wife). Good luck!!