Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roger2561 on November 26, 2013, 08:29:31 AM
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Hi all, My neighbor has an '06 Kioti CK30 that he bought new in '06 (I do not know how many hours on it). It turns over nicely, but will not fire up. Any ides where to look for a problem? I know these things have many safety interlocks switches built into them and any one of them can raise havoc with it. But before we start looking at switches, where else would I most likely find something that can cause this problem? No doubt I'm overlooking something very simple but I cannot think of it. Thanks in advance for the information and help. Roger
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do you know it is getting fuel? an 06 yousay, has the sediment bowl or fuel filter ever been cleaned or changed? does it have a little pump on the engine to pump the lines full in case of running out of fuel, if so pumping this, you should feel resistance. i have a small case tractor and if one of the switches is tripped it will not even crank (not sure if your tractor is like this or not)
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Fuel gelled? Mine did a couple weeks ago.
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Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with the Kioti line of tractors. I really don't know what he's done for service lately. The only thing he mentioned is he put a fuel conditioner in it to prevent the fuel from gelling. He says he does this every year and this is the first year he's experiencing any trouble with the tractor. I hope to see him this weekend and see what we can do to get his tractor operating again. Thanks for the suggestions. I appreciate it. Roger
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Keep us posted. I just got my tractor this year and I'm sure it will not start at some point. Its good to learn from the experiences of others.
Gregg
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Preheater/glow plugs not working?
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Preheater/glow plugs not working?
Interesting thought. Another place to look if all else fails. Thanks for the suggesting it. Roger
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Check to see if the safety switch under the seat is ok, my daughter went to get the tractor this summer, sat on the edge of the seat and said it wouldn't start, just kept turning over. She is only 12 and not heavy enough to activate it.
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I heard back from my neighbor; the one whose Kioti CK30 will turn over but not fire. He says on Wednesday he purged air from the fuel lines. He says the tractor started right up. He used it for about an hour non stop; plenty of power. Thursday morning he went to use it again and same as before; it would turn over but not start. He tried again Friday morning and again, it would turn over but not start. My suspicion is that there is an air leak in the fuel line somewhere. Does anyone know how to test for an air leak in a fuel line? Thanks in advance for the assistance. Roger
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http://www.tractorpoint.com/forum/kioti-tractor-review/164136/1/CK30-turns-over-but-won-t-start.html (http://www.tractorpoint.com/forum/kioti-tractor-review/164136/1/CK30-turns-over-but-won-t-start.html)
Looks like bad fuel pump if your getting air into the lines.
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Hello all, I heard from this evening. He said he got his tractor going. It appears that the last time he put fuel in the tank he forgot to put the anti-gel additive it. At his wits end (it doesn't take long) he decided to put some in the fuel tank on the tractor and let it sit for a couple of hours. He then went outside and it fired right up. He's going to let it sit overnight and possibly all day tomorrow and try it Saturday morning. The temps Friday night are expected to fall into the 20's so Saturday morning will be a good test for it. You see, my neighbor suffers from the same disease I do; sometimes disease. Sometime you remember things, sometimes you don't. It appears this happens to one of them. Roger
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Diesels only need fuel, air, compression/ heat to run. If the problem pursists there should be some sort of check valve usually found in the fuel filter housing if it keeps loosing prime. If the fuel is jelling up a additive like diesel heat or cetane booster helps. I just found this part of the forum and am a heavy diesel mechanic. I don't wonder to this part of the forum oftem but if anyone is haveing problems feel free to p.m. me and I'll get back asap.
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Thanks ECC!
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Also there is a summer diesel fuel and winter diesel fuel. Winter diesel fuel has a antigel formula put into it. Can and will it still jell up? Yes, It takes alot more than the summer blend though. So if he doesn't run it alot and had summer fuel in the tank it could have gelled easier. Also note that leaving a diesel tank low for a long period of time will easily grow algae (SP?) like that grows in a fish tank only different lol. Its best to store a diesel with a full fuel tank rather than half full. Cheaper than spending alot of money on fuel filters in the spring summer etc. No problem hondaracer. Its the least I could do after gettin the info off this forum!
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This is my first year with a tractor. What do you all use for a diesel additive? I just bought Diesel 911 on the recommendation of my farmer step dad.
Gregg
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diesel 911 is usually used when fuel is gelling up or water is in your fuel tank. I wouldn't use it as a all the time additive. Its expensive also. I mix a half gallon of ATF with 5 gallon of diesel fuel every fillup in my b2920 kubota. This low sulfur fuel is bad on fuel systems. The suflur in diesel fuel is a lot of the lubercation. When they went to low sulfur the lube came out of the fuel hince the ATF. Similar things are running two stroke mix in your diesel. Just adding lubercation to movin parts. You can pick some of that up at Wally world pretty cheap. I usually use this also. http://powerservice2.reachlocal.net/share/default.aspx?utm_source=ReachLocal&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=Winter. (http://powerservice2.reachlocal.net/share/default.aspx?utm_source=ReachLocal&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=Winter.) Very good stuff and also has lubercation for your fuel system.
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Ah yes. I grabbed the Diesel 911 at Tractor Supply on a recommendation and never read it. It looks like it will be good to have on the shelf anyway.
Gregg
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When I got home from work Friday evening I received a phone call from my brother. His tractor wouldn't start again. So I told him I'd stop by his place Saturday morning to have a look. I thought to bring my multimeter with me. When I arrived at his place he already had the hood removed so to work on it was much easier. I first asked him to crank it over so I could hear what it sounded like. It cranked ever so slow. I put my meter across the battery terminals and it read 9 volts. It needs a charge I told him. We put it on the charger for a couple of hours and tried again. This time I put the test leads across the terminals before he even thought of cranking. When he cranked it it read 9 volts again. His battery was shot. Off to the store for a new one. We put it in, he hit the glow plugs until the dash lite went out and cranked it. It fired right up. As the engine was running I put meter probes on the battery again to see if the generator was working properly. My meter showed 14.3/14.5 volts. It's charging as it should. I received an email message from him this morning (he has the week off from work) and said the tractor started without a hitch this morning even with the wind hitting it straight on all night at 26F. Who knows if the fuel gelled or not. But at least the darned thing starts for him now. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions, encouragement, etc... It really helped a lot. Roger