Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => Fire Wood => Topic started by: Roger2561 on January 03, 2014, 04:03:59 AM
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I can't remember if I posted a picture of how I move my firewood. Each pallet is homemade out of pressure treated lumber and each is a half cord. Once filled, the wood lives in it until I need to burn it.
Beware - This is one heavy load. As you can see I had to add some weight to the front by filling the loader bucket with cement blocks to keep the front end down. Roger
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Roger, I do remember seeing that somewhere here a while back. Are you guys enjoying balmy temps out that way, too? lol
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Compared to what we are expecting for the night (minus 20 plus) these zro temps we're experiencing will feel balmy. And, I still have about a foot of snow to clear from my driveway from yesterday's snow storm. The joys of living in New England. :) Roger
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Compared to what we are expecting for the night (minus 20 plus) these zro temps we're experiencing will feel balmy. And, I still have about a foot of snow to clear from my driveway from yesterday's snow storm. The joys of living in New England. :) Roger
I hear ya on that!.. I was plowing and cleaning up and it was -9 below zero!.. Its not bad as long as you keep moving!
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Nice set up Roger, Didn't get as cold down here as you had it(-11 right now) but its DAMN cold.
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Thanks.
When I got up around 4:30 this morning it was about 18 below zero. We're expecting a heat wave tomorrow. The temps may reach into the upper 30's, same for Monday. Then back to reality, the temps on Tuesday are to tumble back into the single digits for a couple of days.
I must be getting used to the cold weather though. I was outside clearing the area of my property I didn't clear from the last storm we got and I found it rather nice. Granted that was at 10:30am this morning but it only was 2 above zero. I have more work to do outside this afternoon but because the sun is shining quite a bit it'll be rather comfortable. I gotta get me a pair of snowshoes. What a beautiful dayweekend for a nice walk in the woods carrying a camera. Roger
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has anyone ever tried a trailer like this, hover over the pallet like Roger has made and pick it up and move it with the trailer holding the weight instead of the lift on the tractor?
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has anyone ever tried a trailer like this, hover over the pallet like Roger has made and pick it up and move it with the trailer holding the weight instead of the lift on the tractor?
Wood Nutt - I wonder how much weight that thing can handle? I know the pallets I made, when full weigh a bit over a ton. But, I like that idea. It gets the weight off the 3pth, saves on the wear and tear of the tractor, and puts the load on the hauler. Now you're making the gears rotate in my head on a Sunday of all things :). Roger
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Nice setup Roger, I have made a few of the same setup for buddies of mine, if anybody near me needs forks to make one let me know, I have a friend that has some take offs.
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thank you guys gave me a new project i love the idel of stacking it only once :post: :thumbup:
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The trailer shown is designed to pick up concrete vaults which I googled and they weigh between 2300 and 2700 pounds. So, 1/2 cord looks to be the upper limit, at least on that commercial made version. I am thinking a pallet base, slide a couple of lifting beams under the pallet, pull over the pallet with the trailer and hook to the ends of the lifting beam to pick it up. Probably need to figure out a way to stabilize it too during transit. I think the 3rd wheel on the trailer helps with the transport, but theoretically, the tractor could be the 3rd wheel.
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Oh, before I forget - the pallets are nailed together with 20D spikes. I suggest that if you don't already own a framing hammer, get one. It takes a bit to drive a 20D spike into pressure treated lumber. Also, the heavy duty webbing going from one side of the pallet across the top to the other is held in place by a a 1/4 inch by 2 inch lag bolt with a 1 1/4 inch fender washer to keep the bolt head from ripping through the webbing. Roger
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I do exactly the opposite Roger , I have a front end loader with clamp on forks and use either a pallet I made 7 ft wide 4 ft deep , or when i go up on the ridge i just cut logs 7 -8 ft long and stack them across the forks and strap everything down , lots of weight up front but i use a 6 ft box scraper on the back and it helps level it out , I have a logging road up to the ridge and weighted down if i hit a bump I have had the rear wheels off the ground , serious pucker factor ,, i just take it slow and easy coming down , its usually 2 days worth of wood , keeps me exercising
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I do exactly the opposite Roger , I have a front end loader with clamp on forks and use either a pallet I made 7 ft wide 4 ft deep , or when i go up on the ridge i just cut logs 7 -8 ft long and stack them across the forks and strap everything down , lots of weight up front but i use a 6 ft box scraper on the back and it helps level it out , I have a logging road up to the ridge and weighted down if i hit a bump I have had the rear wheels off the ground , serious pucker factor ,, i just take it slow and easy coming down , its usually 2 days worth of wood , keeps me exercising
netwerx-r-us; I would love to have the forks in front but my loader isn't beefy enough to handle that kind of weight. As it is, I've max'd the capacity of the 3Ph with the weight pf those pallets.
You have given me an idea. When I buck up the log length firewood I have delivered, I pull a log off the pile with a cant hook and cut it on the ground (safer). It's back breaking work due to lower back problems from my EMS days. I'll get myself a fork attachment for the front end loader, raise the log to a comfortable height, drive to area where I'll be splitting it and buck it up there. No more lifting and moving blocks of wood that are 2 feet long from under foot. My wood splitter is a horizontal/vertical 37 ton Cub Cadet that I always use in Vertical mode. I simply roll the blocks to the splitter, no lifting involved. Roger
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Wish I had pictures of my setup (tractor/1 ton dually with trailer). I am not sure of the correct of official name for the trailer, but the old man and several older uncles call it a DREY SKIDDER.
Basically the trailer has a hydraulic boom/grapple (Prentice loader system) on tongue and then there is a double axle in the back with wood racks. Can easily haul 16'; only problem is that you need a truck with BIG springs to handle the weigh. Originally pulled behind 1/2 ton, needless to say about a year later springs in back of truck where shot. Its nice cause there is also a winch on the unit, so drop tree or pull tree over with winch if in tight spot (like near houses), cut into 8'-16' lengths, winch to trailer, load and drive out of woods or lawn. Then once I get to landing at the house, one guy operates hyrdaulics (usually holding log at confortable height off ground) and block as required.
One time I got really lazy, blocks were +30" diameter, and used trailer to pick up blocks to put on splitter.
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Ill have to check my specs on tractor but seems like the front end lift is as much as the 3 pt hitch or pretty close, ill try and get a picture of it next day or 2 when i go up to get a load ,key is not to overload it too much . i like it because I can drive right up to wood pile and cut my logs while their on the loader , drop right of into the wood pile , I had my ridge logged and I've got tops everywhere , usually about 6- 8 inches across and seems like my stove does better with those than a huge chunk ,
I do cut a extra load and leave it up there where I can drive right under it , lift and strap it down for the next time
Im playing around with the idea of building a rack that would fit onto my box scraper and get some more on their that way , as long as the weight is distributed back and front it'll be fine and level it out
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Easy Netwerx you may be overloading the axles and bearings, we used to have a saying in the woods, Go light, go often, not so hard on the equipment. don't get hurt.
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Deja vue slim ,
took your advice and nice and slow , only loaded half what I normally do as it was dark , I got something hung up against rear hyd hose and it gave way and I lost all power and hydraulics on the way down the hill . got it to a stop and had to walk home about a mile and half, bad thing was it was 15 degrees out and I had to walk thru the creek knee deep , just got my replacement hoses today and will put them on in the morning , never fails this cant happen when its 50 -60 out but 22 degrees high today
tried to add picture but my folder is full, anyone know how to contact admin , seems several have this issue
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Roger, how many pounds does your front bucket lift?
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Roger, how many pounds does your front bucket lift?
ST98 - I'm certain it can lift a ton of weight, it's the wear and tear on the spindles that bothers me. With the weight on the 3Pth I'm not that concerned other than the front end coming off the ground. That's a pucker factor for sure. My brother heard it slam shut a half mile away! :) My avatar shows my yard clearing device. That blower weighs a 1000Lbs and the tractor handles it nicely. Roger
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It sure seems to me that all those small tractors could route the hoses where they won't get caught up on stumps and sticks, look at where your valve body is, I can't think of a worse place for it.
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Here is what I do.
Took a flatbed hay wagon and put a little roof over it...Slope keeps the rain and the snow off me...
It holds just about a cord of wood so I move the wagon to my wood pile, load up and then move it back to the furnace.
Been doing this for three years, very happy with it.
the first couple years I had the furnace I tried
1. keeping my wood by the furnace...neglected to realize how far away my piles ended up when they were all full, too long of a walk with each piece of wood in the spring, plus a huge mess in the yard,
2. Tried moving pallets with the 3 pt hitch forks...it was ok but the wood was exposed, or i was messing with tarps...
this method is my favorite...looks like a vegetable stand though...
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terpjr - Welcome to the forum. That's nice setup you have there. You use the KISS system - Keep It Simple Stupid. Roger
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Thanks Roger,
I have lurked around the forum for a little while...
been the best place to give me answers on where to start when issues come up...
seems like I learn something new every year...
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Thanks for the Tractor Porn Roger ;D ;D
Very cool setup !
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You can go to tractordata.com and get all the specs on almost any tractor ever made. Its very helpful! Example. I have a b2920. rear 3pt hitch will lift about 1100 pounds. Front loader will lift about 950 lbs. I use the thumb on my backhoe to skid my logs over to my boiler. Once I get about 5-10 logs ill hold them up about 3ft in the air and cut them with my saw. Saves my back TONS!
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You can go to tractordata.com and get all the specs on almost any tractor ever made. Its very helpful! Example. I have a b2920. rear 3pt hitch will lift about 1100 pounds. Front loader will lift about 950 lbs. I use the thumb on my backhoe to skid my logs over to my boiler. Once I get about 5-10 logs ill hold them up about 3ft in the air and cut them with my saw. Saves my back TONS!
Nice tractor set up!..I recently purchased the Kubota L3800..Should of done it yrs ago lol..
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I use my JD X728 with 45 loader, although currently looking to upgrade to a larger machine.
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I use the "hay rack" system also. In my area you can buy old wagon running gears for practically nothing and sometimes people give them to me. I use beams from old barns for stringers and old hog crate flooring for the floor and build a "wood rack". I load them right off the splitter and let them sit in the sun and wind until winter when I back them in the pole shed until I need them. Works great!