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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: higgins11 on February 11, 2014, 07:32:28 PM

Title: solar and wood
Post by: higgins11 on February 11, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
I'm wanting to install solar panels and backup with a wood furnace. I'm looking for someone in NC or SC that sells and installs these units together

any ideas
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: Scott7m on February 11, 2014, 08:40:30 PM
I'm wanting to install solar panels and backup with a wood furnace. I'm looking for someone in NC or SC that sells and installs these units together

any ideas

We sell solar and Wood stoves, but thats a rarity.  We have 5kw systems now for 8995, thats dirt cheap but good stuff

Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: slimjim on February 12, 2014, 04:59:04 AM
 I sure wish the solar industry was as friendly to the wood boiler industry as we are to them, what a great combination, we have a large government subsidized organization here that promotes solar (pv and solar thermal) , the second you mention wood boiler they want nothing to do with you.
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: fryedaddy on February 12, 2014, 06:16:20 AM
Higgins,

It depends on the solar you are looking for.

My stove is designed to be duel purpose, hydronic heater and solar storage for your hot water in the summer.
It's more of a conventional model made to go inside a shop but fits what you mentioned.

Are you looking for solar hydronic or solar electric panels?

I grew up with the brand I use and he's my neighbor, see the link below. They are out of Mount Airy, N.C. (Surry County).

http://www.hickswaterstoves.com/ (http://www.hickswaterstoves.com/)
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: Muskoka98 on February 12, 2014, 08:45:32 AM
Higgins,

This is a portable system which I use to power my OWF during power outages (saves running the generator).
http://www.goalzero.com/p/138/goal-zero-yeti-1250-solar-generator-kit (http://www.goalzero.com/p/138/goal-zero-yeti-1250-solar-generator-kit)
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: Scott7m on February 12, 2014, 01:59:18 PM
Does he only want soolar to run the stove??
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: higgins11 on February 12, 2014, 07:06:46 PM
We are looking for solar hot water panels ..........in NC you can get 30% tax credit for solar hot water panels and you can use wood furnace as solar storage and back up
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: RSI on February 12, 2014, 08:07:43 PM
Nature's Comfort sells something similar to what you are looking for but you would need a huge amount of solar panels to try heating a house.
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: higgins11 on February 12, 2014, 08:09:46 PM
RSI........ This is not for a house its for our dairy.  Heating a cheese making vessel and a cheese room and hot water to clean up......ok and possibly a greenhouse at a later date
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: Scott7m on February 12, 2014, 08:40:43 PM
RSI........ This is not for a house its for our dairy.  Heating a cheese making vessel and a cheese room and hot water to clean up......ok and possibly a greenhouse at a later date

I cant imagine how many solar water heaters that would take

Why not just use the tax credit for real solar?  Its 30 federal and 30 state plus incentives through your power provider
 
Lets Say you get a 10k watt system for 18k, 60 percent off that is awesome and much more dependable and efficient than solar water
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: slimjim on February 12, 2014, 08:48:18 PM
I would agree with you Scott emphatically but Higgins you must at least look at our Enviro 500 wood chip/ Biomass boiler for the load you are going to put on the boiler with the hot water for your rinse lines at the dairy.
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: higgins11 on February 13, 2014, 04:32:36 PM
its not as big as you may think .......we have a 5 cow dairy and make cheese. cheese room, office, wash up room etc is only 18X24.......looking at around 160-200 gallons of stored hot water
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: slimjim on February 13, 2014, 05:04:07 PM
Temp of at least 165 degrees F on the entire 200 gallons twice a day am I right.
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: higgins11 on February 13, 2014, 05:13:55 PM
6 gallons per day (x) 5 cows = 30 gallons per day

30 gallons x 7 days =210 gallons per week

make cheese 3 times per week.....so 3 batches of 70 gallons

cheddar cheese takes 116 degrees for 30 minutes......aged for 60 days to be sold
or
140 degrees for 30 minutes if we go with pasteurization


We will be making cheese in a stainless steel kettle that has a water jacket .........water in and around the kettle and back to the loop


Alot of the stored hot water will go to clean up / wash down. Which will be used twice a day every day

Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: fryedaddy on February 24, 2014, 11:26:25 AM
Check out the link I provided earlier.

If the temp is above 40 degrees in my area I can get 150-55 degree water (1 day), my stove holds 650ish gallons

During the spring, summer & fall my wife cant run it out of hot water.
Title: Re: solar and wood
Post by: mlappin on February 24, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
its not as big as you may think .......we have a 5 cow dairy and make cheese. cheese room, office, wash up room etc is only 18X24.......looking at around 160-200 gallons of stored hot water

Jerseys or Guernsey's?

I have a friend that gets two premiums for his organic Jerseys. One for being organic of course and the other is for the butter fat. Goes straight to a cheese factory somewhere.