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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: oz on February 16, 2014, 08:36:04 AM

Title: woodmaster
Post by: oz on February 16, 2014, 08:36:04 AM
have been reading on OWB for a couple of month's now, will be putting one in this spring. really like the thought put into the bl-2840 and would buy it but nearest dealer is better than a five hr drive one way.
 there is how ever a woodmaster dealer with in a half hour drive of me. i beleive the farm next door to me has a woodmaster so i will be going over to pick his brain. although as i sad i do like the thought put into the bl2840 dealer location is also a huge factor. so anybody burning with the woodmaster 4400 or its predecessor? looking for any input be it pos or neg on the 4400

Thanks
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on February 16, 2014, 11:54:35 AM
Could you expand a little on your concern about a dealer being close by?
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: Coyote556 on February 16, 2014, 01:41:35 PM
OZ,

I am in a similar boat to you.  I have Central Boiler, Woodmaster, Hardy, and Crown Royal dealers close by.  I narrowed it down to CB and Portage and Main.  There is no PM boiler dealer in my area, but if I had to buy today, that is what I would by.  I am still considering the CB, but heavily leaning toward the PM.  I have talked to the factory people and a dealer in southern MN.  I am not afraid of it because there is not that much to go wrong with them and I am pretty handy.  My opinion is do the research and buy the best boiler out there, dealer close or not.  That is my plan
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: oz on February 17, 2014, 03:22:47 AM
honda, if a blower was to crap out or a door gasket did not seal properly if one of the stats did not function within the aloud warranty period is a tech going to drive the 10 plus hrs return to repair? I am fairly handy at this stuff but most if not all warranty work for the most part states that it needs to be done by a qualified tech or the warranty becomes void. i am not sure what the warranty's read with the odb's, but other large priced items i have bought state this in there warranty.

what will be the cost of delivery? sure i could go and get the unit but that is a whole day gone. i would be picking the unit up in the spring which is one of the busiest times of the year for me, time is money this time of the year. I am suree a self employed dealer would be thinking the same.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: Pit Crew on February 17, 2014, 04:01:22 AM
All parts can be shiped to your house.Warranty is free to you but still pays a dealer to perform the job.I m sure any dealer can fix the problem.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: slimjim on February 17, 2014, 04:37:10 AM
Self employed dealers for the most part (I think) are more than happy to not only get paid to work on the competitions boiler but get a real life look at how there competitions boilers perform in the field and a chance to talk to the homeowner about their experience, It certainly gives me a chance to win over another customer in the future by providing them with a needed service.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on February 17, 2014, 07:32:35 AM
Self employed dealers for the most part (I think) are more than happy to not only get paid to work on the competitions boiler but get a real life look at how there competitions boilers perform in the field and a chance to talk to the homeowner about their experience, It certainly gives me a chance to win over another customer in the future by providing them with a needed service.

Slim really subscribes to this theory! Kudos to him! :post:
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: pointer80 on February 17, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
Ive had a woodmaster 4400 for about 7 years now and the only problem ive had is I had to replace the blower motor a couple of times. 
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: slimjim on February 17, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
For those who are mechanically inclined a good dealer is nowhere near as important as for those who can't figure out how to change a blower, but todays units are a bit more complicated as well. Peace of mind is important as well as that we do try to simply give an alternative to the way business has been done in the past.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: Scott7m on February 19, 2014, 08:11:22 AM
If they can't change a fan motor it's probably not a customer you want any how haha...  it's always the ones who can't change a light bulb that present the biggest challenge

Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: slimjim on February 19, 2014, 08:37:03 AM
  But with a little coaxing we may be able to get another family off that oil teet.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: oz on February 19, 2014, 08:40:39 AM
gentlemen, the point i am trying to get across is, if you like a
particular unit and live some Distance away a person should be cautious as to weather there will be extra costs involved such as shipping, travel time for a service call and so on.
As for me, working in my dads auto shop growing up, having licenses in two mechanical trades and working in a nuclear station, think i got the fan changing procedure covered..
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: slimjim on February 19, 2014, 08:55:05 AM
You would be just fine Oz, the point Scott is trying to make is that some people have an idealistic view of things and will jump into it both feet and then it is a lot of work to coach them through the learning curves and proper maintenance. For those who can't figure it out on their own this forum and the people on it can be a great resource.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 19, 2014, 09:49:02 AM
I've never met my dealer.  He's 8 hours away.  But, I learned all my "handyman" skills from my dad growing up.  I got my entire system installed from that knowledge, this forum, and on the phone with my dealer.  If you are even the least bit handy and have a good dealer who communicates well, you should be fine. 
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: cantoo on February 19, 2014, 04:53:29 PM
oz, I bought a used unit and the company that made it is out of business. I've never been one is give warranty much thought though. I wouldn't worry about the distance your dealer is away, you sound like a guy who is just going to fix it anyway. Unless you buy one of the new computerized ones there really isn't much that can go wrong. Even then it's likely just a module or some other change out part. Buy what you think is the best and get burning.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: Goat Herder on March 14, 2014, 09:29:02 PM
I bought a farm in November 2013 with a Woodmaster 4400.  We where a total noob, getting along pretty good with the Woodmaster now with some help from the forum. We had a bad door seal gasket and a flapper dry rotted that allowed for runaway temps the first month, once resolved all good all winter.  We kept a 2200 sq foot farm house, some new some old, about 90 degrees all winter.  Utility bill was less than 150 each month.  We had some record number of single digit cold temps.

Once you get going, a local dealer will not matter much, everything can be ordered online and received about fast as you can go get it.
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: AirForcePOL on March 15, 2014, 06:50:36 AM
90 degrees? That's not a house that's a sauna lol
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: bajonesy77 on March 15, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
Gotta be mistyped! 90  :o  thats summer temps 8)
Title: Re: woodmaster
Post by: mlappin on March 16, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
My god, 90?? Even my wife can't stand it that warm.