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All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 05:51:47 AM

Title: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 05:51:47 AM
Man this sucks! I had a pump fail on Friday. It's covered on warranty. My dealer already had then registered so after a 5 minute phone call it is on it's way. In the mean time, my downstairs level is back on electric! Back to 65 and freezing! Back to keeping shower lengths down.  Wifey is not doing well!

It's a nice, well maybe not nice, but maybe just a good reminder of how awesome wood heat is. It makes us all appreciate what our stove does for this family. Not having to wear long sleeves, socks, house slippers, and blankets all the time. This stove is a huge blessing to my family and these few days are reminding us of that again! It's also a reminder to get a backup pump!  :bash:
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: jnicol6600 on February 22, 2014, 06:10:01 AM
How long you gonna be down?
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 06:17:20 AM
Pump is supposed to arrive Tuesday. I had a pump lined out, but my cousin is being a douche and doesn't want to take the pump off his stove that isn't even hooked up!
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Scott7m on February 22, 2014, 06:19:58 AM
Dang, I thought he was gonna give you that pump to use for a few days.  Wow, not cool
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Crow on February 22, 2014, 06:21:51 AM
 I know this one is under warranty and is free but how much will this free pump cost you in the end? You mentioned having a spare pump so money aside, would you not be just as far ahead to go and get that backup pump today, put it on and save your hydro money??
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Scott7m on February 22, 2014, 06:24:56 AM
I know this one is under warranty and is free but how much will this free pump cost you in the end? You mentioned having a spare pump so money aside, would you not be just as far ahead to go and get that backup pump today, put it on and save your hydro money??

That's an excellent point.  If he's without a pump for let's say 5 days, and he spends 15 bucks a day on heat, that would pay a good portion of a back up pump,  but, that's not counting the added warmth and comfort factor
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Crow on February 22, 2014, 06:25:12 AM
 That is if there is one close enough?
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: jnicol6600 on February 22, 2014, 06:27:22 AM
I dont know your head pressure but I might have a 007
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 06:28:16 AM
Yes, it would. However, a new pump will take just a long to arrive as the warranty pump. Shipping overnight was going to cost more than just the pump! Local plumbing warehouse doesn't have what I need.
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 06:30:16 AM
I'm at 20' of head. I'll pm you with my cell!
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Crow on February 22, 2014, 06:35:05 AM
 Darn, that sucks. Sooooo does a fellow have a second one ordered and shipped with the warranty pump for insurance? I know it all costs money but there will be a need someday and the added inconvenience of waiting another 5 days. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 06:45:22 AM
I dont know your head pressure but I might have a 007

Thx. Too small!
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Boydz on February 22, 2014, 07:04:47 AM
Don't you have to worry about the line set freezing ? or is this a separate house loop off the main ?

Spare pump is a good idea. I blew one out early this year and had another stop on me a couple weeks ago when it was -17 out, but I tapped it with the hammer and it took off again and has been good since. Both are under warranty. The broken one I took apart to see if there was stuff in it and it was clean. I reassembled, plugged it in and still just hummed. I bounced it on the floor and it took off running again and still runs. Definitely on the electrical side and not mechanical.
May want to try this John.
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: Sprinter on February 22, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
Plumbing supply doesn't have what you need? What kind of supplier is that? What circ do you need? Location? I don't condone this but picking any stainless circ up. And atleast see if it will move a couple gallons. Wooops ,,,,clean it up and return it. Cuz it's not the right size.

I think the big box stores can handle it. What do you have available four sources?
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 08:41:08 AM
Thanks for all the help guys! Mr. mtoll lives near me and has a spare pump I'm picking up today!

No worries on freezing. 40 during the day and right around freezing at night. If you watch my videos you'll see I have all 4 lines wrapped in 1 tile outside my garage. My good pump running two lines will keep the other two from freezing.

I really didn't think a big box would have my pump. Local warehouse only had a small taco. When I was installing my stuff, I bought out the whole town out of pex clamps! Vincennes in a small community with the rest of civilization over 1 hour away. We do have a Lowes.

I'm running two badger 25-10SFC pumps. 20' of head 200' of 1" pex, 2 elbows, 1 water to air and 1-20 plate.
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 22, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
I'm back in business!

Man, this forum is something else! At 7 this morning I posted, just for venting purposes, that I was down a pump till Tuesday. By 4 I'm hooked up with a donated pump till my new one comes in! Special thanks to Mr. jnicol6600 for the offer and Mr. mtoll for the bell & gosset that will get me to Tuesday! You guys rock!

I took my old one apart but I can't figure out how to get the shaft out. The drive turns. But I can't get it apart any further. Ant thoughts?
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: jnicol6600 on February 22, 2014, 04:11:42 PM
No problem. You are more than generous with information and offers to help.  Looks like that pump is just stuck together by the gasket but my experience is limited to taco pumps.  I got some coal today. I think i'll save it for high heat loads. that stuff really stinks when idling alot.
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: AirForcePOL on February 22, 2014, 09:29:22 PM
Always good to know there's people on here that are always willing to help each other out!  Glad to hear you're back up and running! My Menards store has a boiler section and they sell Taco and Grundfos pumps maybe even a few more brands.   I'm using a grundfos 15-58 on my garage I think I paid under $80 for it.   Once I swap my 3/4 pex on my house with 1" I'll be able to use that same pump on both of my loops.   I'm going to buy a extra just in case.   Pretty cheap  insurance.   
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: netwerx-r-us on February 23, 2014, 06:39:31 PM
Vincennes? my father and his family are all from there , Lunsfords
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: CountryBoyJohn on February 23, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Vincennes? my father and his family are all from there , Lunsfords

My wife's family may know them. I married into the family and the County. But they are mostly from the north Knox area.
Title: Re: Back on the teet
Post by: baldwin racing on February 23, 2014, 07:27:13 PM
Man this sucks! I had a pump fail on Friday. It's covered on warranty. My dealer already had then registered so after a 5 minute phone call it is on it's way. In the mean time, my downstairs level is back on electric! Back to 65 and freezing! Back to keeping shower lengths down.  Wifey is not doing well!

It's a nice, well maybe not nice, but maybe just a good reminder of how awesome wood heat is. It makes us all appreciate what our stove does for this family. Not having to wear long sleeves, socks, house slippers, and blankets all the time. This stove is a huge blessing to my family and these few days are reminding us of that again! It's also a reminder to get a backup pump!  :bash:

If a 15-58 3 speed grundfos will work this company has a good price with free shipping....http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRUNDFOS-UPS15-58FC-115V-BRUTE-3-SPEED-PUMP-59896341-/380720686530?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a4b8a5c2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRUNDFOS-UPS15-58FC-115V-BRUTE-3-SPEED-PUMP-59896341-/380720686530?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a4b8a5c2)   to buy for a spare as back up.....I always have one just in case.....my father enlaw my 2 neighbors both run 15-58 and we all have spares just incase.... that way we can get one from each other if we don't have a spare.....(forgot to buy one or something)
Kelly