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Outdoor Furnaces - Manufacturers WITH EPA-Certified Models => HeatMaster => Topic started by: Bucknut on February 24, 2014, 01:58:08 PM

Title: Price increase!
Post by: Bucknut on February 24, 2014, 01:58:08 PM
I understand as of March 1st there will be a price increase of Heatmaster products. Between march 1st and end of April they are offering a rebate! They are raising the prices 300$ then offering a 900$ rebate. Guess if you want one buy in those 2 months for better pricing. In sept. they offering a 500$ rebate.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on February 24, 2014, 03:38:33 PM
Yea..  but those rebates are off of the new pricing! 

We've sold 5000E for 7495 a long time,  new retail on them is 8295

10e is now at 10,295 retail I think

Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on February 24, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
We've sold 5000E for 7495 a long time,  new retail on them is 8295

10e is now at 10,295 retail I think

What was the previous MF10000e retail price?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on February 24, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
We've sold 5000E for 7495 a long time,  new retail on them is 8295

10e is now at 10,295 retail I think

What was the previous MF10000e retail price?  Just curious

I'm actually not sure, we retail them here for 9495 and sometimes I offer discounts on top of that
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: yoderheating on February 25, 2014, 05:47:09 AM
 The new prices for us are 5000e $7995 and 10,000e $9,995
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on February 25, 2014, 07:18:47 AM
The new prices for us are 5000e $7995 and 10,000e $9,995

Yea, I know our prices are similar and I'm gonna try to keep up with that. 

I know that many dealers right now are already that much before the increase tho.  Some dealers have been selling the 5000E for 7995 plus shipping for a good while now
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: hondaracer2oo4 on February 25, 2014, 09:16:03 AM
A little competition drives down prices huh guys?
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: andyjs on February 25, 2014, 10:00:43 AM
Dang! Good thing I bought mine already.thanks to scott
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: MO_Hunter on February 25, 2014, 10:17:47 AM
Thinking of upgrading my furnace in a year or so.  Just wondering on prices that you just gave.

Are they for:

$$ for furnace only - buyer picks up
$$ for furnace plus delivery

Looking to budget my money I like to pay cash.

Also,  I know I will have to contact dealer in my area but do some dealers buy used furnaces or would I have to try to sell on my own?
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Sluggo on February 25, 2014, 10:21:20 AM
Scott,what's a 20,000e going for?
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: AirForcePOL on February 25, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
Dang! Good thing I bought mine already.thanks to scott

x2! Me and a buddy just placed our order with Scott  :thumbup:  He is great to work with and will most likely blow your local dealers prices out of the water even with shipping included.  I can't wait to see what the 5000e is capable of next winter.  Thanks again Scott!
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on February 25, 2014, 06:45:05 PM
A little competition drives down prices huh guys?

No that's really not the case....  Every dealer has different overhead based on previous year sales, whether they buy direct, what time of the year they buy etc

Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on February 25, 2014, 06:45:30 PM
Scott,what's a 20,000e going for?

Not sure, I'll have to look it up
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on February 25, 2014, 06:48:20 PM
Thinking of upgrading my furnace in a year or so.  Just wondering on prices that you just gave.

Are they for:

$$ for furnace only - buyer picks up
$$ for furnace plus delivery

Looking to budget my money I like to pay cash.

Also,  I know I will have to contact dealer in my area but do some dealers buy used furnaces or would I have to try to sell on my own?

Sometimes dealers do trades,  I know Lauren does sometimes

I do sometimes but not a lot

You are better off selling your used furnace on ebay or Craigslist

The prices you've seen thrown around are picked up at our shops, if you want shipping quotes you can call or message me with your address and I'll have my broker get us a quote.. 
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: slimjim on March 07, 2014, 12:21:21 PM
Just curious Scott, why the increase, are they changing the stoves or just that the economy is doing so much better, we are more than likely going to have to up the price a bit on the other side of the border but stateside will stay where it is as long as the US dollar stays where it is but it seems that more than likely will not hold out unless of course we can find somebody to invade!!!!!
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on March 07, 2014, 12:43:14 PM
Just curious Scott, why the increase, are they changing the stoves or just that the economy is doing so much better, we are more than likely going to have to up the price a bit on the other side of the border but stateside will stay where it is as long as the US dollar stays where it is but it seems that more than likely will not hold out unless of course we can find somebody to invade!!!!!

Im not 100% sure to be honest, I think though that it may be an effort to invest in the future stoves by doing lab work and developing there g series.   They are also coming out with a new line of boilers soon, so it's likely that may have played into it.  Heatmaster is shipping stoves at a wife open pace just the same as they were in the fall. 

As far as the msrp, all dealers price at there own levels, prices have went up but individual dealers may vary
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: yoderheating on March 07, 2014, 07:21:44 PM
Getting furnaces ready for the 2015 standard is going to take a lot of money. Its gotta come from somewhere. Thats not what they are saying but I can put two and two together. Anyone who doesn't think the new epa standards will not drive up cost is kidding themselves.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: slimjim on March 08, 2014, 06:55:02 AM
YOU ARE SO RIGHT YODER, I've been battling what you guys are now for 6-7 years, it's a real job killing country we live in. Perhaps the answer would be to apply to the govt for a job, they seem to be doing very well, nice to have the rush of sales now because of those impending rules but just wait until those rules do come in, sales will then drop like a rock even after the new products are developed.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: yoderheating on March 08, 2014, 07:37:39 AM
Yea Slim, at least they can get a little ahead this year I guess. Darn shame, we had a good thing going for both dealers and customers but I think the fat lady is starting to sing.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: AirForcePOL on March 08, 2014, 08:29:49 AM
So here's my question... What will happen to all of the stoves that are left over after 1 Jan if they can't sell them within that 60 day window?  Will they just send them back to Canada or try to sell them at a discounted price to get rid of them?
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on March 08, 2014, 11:57:15 AM
YOU ARE SO RIGHT YODER, I've been battling what you guys are now for 6-7 years, it's a real job killing country we live in. Perhaps the answer would be to apply to the govt for a job, they seem to be doing very well, nice to have the rush of sales now because of those impending rules but just wait until those rules do come in, sales will then drop like a rock even after the new products are developed.

What kind of increases in OWB sales are you seeing slimjim?  Just ballpark estimates.... my curiosity is peaked.  ???

Chime in too Scott7m and Yoder and any other dealers.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: slimjim on March 08, 2014, 04:02:13 PM
Nothing right now, at least stateside, the exchange rate is fair right now, new models in development now will go up because of technology and higher labor to build them.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: yoderheating on March 09, 2014, 06:10:58 AM
 I don't do retail any more. In the area I work I believe we will be seeing a year similar to 08 where no one could keep furnaces in stock. AirForcePOL, I don't think there will be a problem with furnaces being left over. My guess is that dealers will be sold out long before then. When this gets out to the general public every guy that has been thinking for the last 5 years about buying will jump and do it quickly. I'm worried that there will be a number of dealers who make a quick buck and then go out of business.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: slimjim on March 09, 2014, 06:30:02 AM
Yes, I would agree with you on that whole statement Yoder, most dealers will not ride it out but instead just close the doors after the rules come in just like they did here in the northeast.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: ijon on April 15, 2014, 04:20:52 AM
Look at Washington, jobs and growth are going crazy there.
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on April 15, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
Sales are def well above normal for this time of the year
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: mike26038 on April 16, 2014, 07:34:45 PM
Wish I could be one of those sales. Unfortunatly, financing is imposible. So looks like ill be seeing the propane man forever. Funny thing is two years of propane would pay for the furnace, but I can only raise 1 years worth at a time.  :(
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: MattyNH on April 16, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
Sales are def well above normal for this time of the year
Yeah I can see that after this winter
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: Scott7m on April 16, 2014, 08:40:27 PM
Wish I could be one of those sales. Unfortunatly, financing is imposible. So looks like ill be seeing the propane man forever. Funny thing is two years of propane would pay for the furnace, but I can only raise 1 years worth at a time.  :(

There are financing options to you, its not as cheap as paying cash after your fees but it still gets you off the man
Title: Re: Price increase!
Post by: mike26038 on April 17, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Bad credit past. Got turned down from the bank. I got $3k saved up, which is just about how much I spent on propane this year.