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Title: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 06, 2014, 06:51:14 PM
Not that it's a great big deal but I spoke with Brian this morning and we agree that we would like to track any residual sales from this forum, in order to accurately track it, starting today we will offer a $100 discount on the purchase price of your P+M boiler for simply letting us know that first you read and comment here as well as give us your feedback on our presence. I personally would like to thank the moderators for allowing those of us who do promote our products here to do so without any pressure to advertise, I know of no other forum that allows it! I think having a company rep to answer questions about their products is very important, Thank you all again!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on March 06, 2014, 07:03:15 PM
While not really wanting a $100 discount or any freebies, I will add a statement that this forum, OWFI.com, is where I have learned much about Portage & Main boilers.  I have "watched" a very high level of customer support by slimjim and several others (competing companies' representatives) within this forum (before, during, and after I actually purchased a Portage & Main BL series boiler).  I can positively say that the level of "internet support" I have read about on these forums contributed to my selection of a Portage & Main unit.  I expect no lesser level of support in the future and can write this post with nearly no reservation.  Thank you and I look forward to installing and firing up my P&M Ultimizer in the nearing weeks.  -Scott K.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 06, 2014, 07:24:41 PM
We will not waiver!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: willowbk on March 06, 2014, 08:10:55 PM
a note from a very satisfied portage and main customer. i've had some minor issues w/ my new stove.
nothing that was detrimental and the p/m tech was in my area(w/in an hour) and contacted me and stopped by to help me w/ those concerns. i'm here to say if your concerned about support prior to buying a p/m dont be. with a few phone calls or emails and a little patience slim will get your squared away. warm and happy in ct.  thanks again.
i'll be sure to let the powers that be know!!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 06, 2014, 08:49:00 PM
Thanks Scott!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: franky1 on March 07, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
Well now slimmy jimmy,lol
whats this I hear, who does the nicest installation (sending pics to Brian) gets a free stove or something at the end of each year.?
who will be the Judge?
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 08, 2014, 06:21:43 AM
He said something about that, have they posted something on the website? They handle that part, I don't think I've been on the website in 6 months, I'm way to busy and having far to much fun to check up on them, I know I'm not going to win, I do a really nice job out in the field but here at home there never seems to be enough time to make it look nice, Have you ever noticed that the best mechanics always seem to drive the piece of crap pickup truck or the electrician is running his house with extension cords ( that's Me.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: mlappin on March 08, 2014, 06:27:16 AM
He said something about that, have they posted something on the website? They handle that part, I don't think I've been on the website in 6 months, I'm way to busy and having far to much fun to check up on them, I know I'm not going to win, I do a really nice job out in the field but here at home there never seems to be enough time to make it look nice, Have you ever noticed that the best mechanics always seem to drive the piece of crap pickup truck or the electrician is running his house with extension cords ( that's Me.

More than once to be honest. Something else I've noticed, some of the better mechanics I know are staying away from the new diesels with all that emissions crap on them.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 08, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
PROUD OWNER of a 2000 F-250 with the 7.3 liter diesel, with about 300,000 miles of VERY heavy hauling, had to add 2 extra leaves in the back, dually add ons and Timbren rubber bump stops to handle my show trailer, registered for 26000 and I use every bit of it. It does not look like much but it always gets me home. Besides it sort of fits my Image, Old ,Tired and Rusty!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: mlappin on March 08, 2014, 10:42:25 AM
PROUD OWNER of a 2000 F-250 with the 7.3 liter diesel, with about 300,000 miles of VERY heavy hauling, had to add 2 extra leaves in the back, dually add ons and Timbren rubber bump stops to handle my show trailer, registered for 26000 and I use every bit of it. It does not look like much but it always gets me home. Besides it sort of fits my Image, Old ,Tired and Rusty!

Owner of a '99 Burgundy Ram 2500. 5.9 Cummins, Edge Juice kit, cold air intake, exhaust gate modifications, have embarrassed more than a few youngsters in their new "muscle" cars.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 08, 2014, 10:47:21 AM
I LIKE YOU, Sorry I could not talk you into our boiler.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on March 08, 2014, 11:52:47 AM
I LIKE YOU, Sorry I could not talk you into our boiler.

It's not your fault slimjim.   :P   ...you just couldn't reach him.....

cool hand luke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuDDqU6n4o#)

Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: oaky on March 08, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
Not that it's a great big deal but I spoke with Brian this morning and we agree that we would like to track any residual sales from this forum, in order to accurately track it, starting today we will offer a $100 discount on the purchase price of your P+M boiler for simply letting us know that first you read and comment here as well as give us your feedback on our presence. I personally would like to thank the moderators for allowing those of us who do promote our products here to do so without any pressure to advertise, I know of no other forum that allows it! I think having a company rep to answer questions about their products is very important, Thank you all again!

After my Aqua-Therm took a pee three weeks ago, I have been on OWF Info forum everyday learning what is now available these days for OWB's. Last time I searched for information for outdoor furnaces was 14 years ago.

Thanks to this SUPER fourm, I had made a comfortable decision on purchasing Portage & Main BL-2840 a few days ago. I'll be making my payment next Tuesday to Dave Jacoby from Strawbale Farms, who I met at a P&M exhibit in Eau Claire WI, who was showing the furnace. Dave is a very nice guy, glad I got him for a dealer!

 Dave is going to be exhibiting the P&M furnaces again at the Eau Claire Indoor Sports Center in Eau Claire, WI on 14-16 of March.

I have to say, Thanks to slim, for mentioning Dave to me & to the posters on this forum. I plan to be with this forum for the long haul, gathering new found tidbits every time I hop aboard.

oaky
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: randy_1 on March 08, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
Hey slim, you mentioned something about spraying the boiler down once I'm done using it in the spring to help prevent corrosion. I was thinking you could post the process you use on here for some of us newbies.  What do ya think?
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 08, 2014, 06:23:53 PM
Sure Randy, great Idea, this may not work in the minds of some but this is what I like to do with mine.  Let the boiler cool off when you are done, clean it out the best you can, vacuuming is a bit eccentric but clean it out, then spray a liberal ( God i really dislike that word) coat of transmission oil over any exposed steel, tubes included ( if your sprayer will not do straight transmission oil then try cutting it with about 10 % heating oil or diesel fuel) , good on the steel, get a water sample by opening the drain on the bottom of the unit, let a gallon or so run and then rinse your sample bottle with the drain water, take a sample( 8 - 12 ounces and send it in to corporate, they will record your sample and let you know how much approved treatment to add.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: mlappin on March 08, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
Sure Randy, great Idea, this may not work in the minds of some but this is what I like to do with mine.  Let the boiler cool off when you are done, clean it out the best you can, vacuuming is a bit eccentric but clean it out, then spray a liberal ( God i really dislike that word) coat of transmission oil over any exposed steel, tubes included ( if your sprayer will not do straight transmission oil then try cutting it with about 10 % heating oil or diesel fuel) , good on the steel, get a water sample by opening the drain on the bottom of the unit, let a gallon or so run and then rinse your sample bottle with the drain water, take a sample( 8 - 12 ounces and send it in to corporate, they will record your sample and let you know how much approved treatment to add.

You can also pick up a siphon blow gun from an auto parts store. Ours is about 24 inches long then has a piece of 1/4" clear vinyl hose you place in whatever liquid you want to spray. Creates quite a bit of suction, I used ours last to suck gear oil out of the nooks and crannies of the differential in our semi after the power divider grenade'ed.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: randy_1 on March 09, 2014, 06:47:01 AM
Ok thank you guys much appritiated
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: mlappin on March 09, 2014, 07:27:59 AM
I LIKE YOU, Sorry I could not talk you into our boiler.

All hope is not lost yet.

Proper way to discuss something though is over a hog fresh from the cooker and a endless supply of beer. ;) Think our locations rule that out.

Figured out how much fire brick I'd need the other night with some extra for any mis cuts form excessive beer consumption. Need to price that.

Working on drawing up dimensions then I have a couple of different places I've worked with in the past to do my cnc plasma cutting and forming. Need to get a quote from them on materials and labor.

Will have to price some barn tin as well, Dad already made it clear he has plans for the stuff stored up in the rafters of the one barn.

Get it all priced out and will see where I stand with build vs buy.

Building it myself still has a big draw though.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 09, 2014, 08:03:43 AM
There certainly is a good feeling that goes with building it yourself, I have some Ideas that I would be happy to share with you offline, wouldn't want to share them here, next thing you know I'd be out of business!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Coyote556 on March 09, 2014, 08:37:12 PM
I have not bought yet, but before I started cruising this form, I did not know anything about P&M, hardly knew they existed.  I am in the central midwest and there are none down here.  Now, after much reading on many brands, they are in my top 2 or three of what I will purchase this summer.  Good stuff guys.  I really appreciate all the info on here.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 10, 2014, 07:06:00 AM
This forum and the people on it have done far more for us than we have done yet, we are going to continue to try and help right next to the rest of the awesome people on the forum, we all do appreciate the great free publicity!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: willowbk on March 10, 2014, 10:21:33 AM
size extra large on my p/m t-shirt, hoodie or nice carharrt coat. i work cheap!!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: karlk on March 10, 2014, 04:00:30 PM
hoodie and hat sounds great
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 10, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
Sounds like a great potential advertising gimmick, I'll have to talk to Brian about some giveaways for forum members, my catch, you have to post
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: coolidge on March 10, 2014, 06:23:41 PM
Large Please :thumbup:
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: oaky on March 10, 2014, 06:32:11 PM
Medium here!

oaky
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 10, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
SHEEEEEEEEEEET this is going to get expensive isn't it!!!!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: sceptre74 on March 10, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Large for me too. Gonna cost ya shipping that to Canada. Lol
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: randy_1 on March 10, 2014, 07:49:39 PM
Slim ... Melissa wants to know where her t shirt is.. She did feed you for three days after all
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: mlappin on March 10, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
xtra large here.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: jackh113 on March 14, 2014, 04:39:22 AM
Wish this had started a week ago!!  lol

Ordered my BL 2840 last week and waiting to hear from shipping co.  Got all my parts order, will be here first of the week.  Backhoe lined up for Thursday to dig my underground pipe ditch.  Time to start having some real fun.   :thumbup:

I want to say thanks to all the knowledgeable guys on here for your present help and past posts.  I've done a lot of gleaning information while lurking on here.  Slimjim and Scott7m especially have been a great help.

I was ready to pull the trigger on a Heatmore until I saw the P&M.  Was sold as soon as I saw it.  The refractory cement and construction were the 2 biggest selling points for me.  Looking forward to many warm winters with it.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 14, 2014, 04:45:18 AM
Congratulations Jack, we're on a role now, let's keep in touch and get it installed, do you have my contact info?
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: jackh113 on March 14, 2014, 04:58:26 AM
Yep I do, slimjim. Talked to you Tuesday am about line and pump size. Lol. Still curious about the aquastat deal you told me about. I'll give you a call when I have the stove in front of me. Will probably make a lot more sense then!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 14, 2014, 05:00:24 AM
I'll give you the parts #s and a wiring schematic if you shoot me an E-Mail
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: jackh113 on March 14, 2014, 05:01:50 AM
Cool. I'll pm you my email.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: oaky on March 14, 2014, 06:25:03 AM
Great job on your BL-2840 purchase, jackh113. it'll take of your needs for a looong time. I just purchased a BL-2840 last week after seeing one for the first time at a farm show, really impressed with the build quality & extremely efficient heat transfer capability in the water jacket. Still feeling comfortable about my decision & even after paying for it.

oaky
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: jackh113 on March 14, 2014, 06:31:31 AM
Thanks oaky.  I'm sure I'll be very happy with it.

Oh and slimjim I'll take a large in black if it's an option.   8)
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: merrellroofing on March 14, 2014, 06:33:03 AM
I wouldn't advertise that you want a large black one.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 14, 2014, 06:35:25 AM
I'm going to speak to Brian when he gets back from the show, I think it's a great Idea but he's the guy that will take the convincing!  That was a good one Merrellroofing!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: jackh113 on March 14, 2014, 06:49:24 AM
Lol. My wife says I'm a master at the old adage "open mouth, insert foot".  Guess I just proved it again huh.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Crow on March 14, 2014, 07:21:16 AM
Thanks oaky.  I'm sure I'll be very happy with it.

Oh and slimjim I'll take a large in black if it's an option.   8)


 :o I think I would just take a regular, everyday one size fits all hat thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: AirForcePOL on March 14, 2014, 07:43:00 AM
I wouldn't advertise that you want a large black one.

HAHA!!! I literally just burst out into laughter when I read that.  Everyone in my office is wondering if I'm ok over here.  Thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: ijon on March 14, 2014, 08:59:07 AM
Not that it's a great big deal but I spoke with Brian this morning and we agree that we would like to track any residual sales from this forum, in order to accurately track it, starting today we will offer a $100 discount on the purchase price of your P+M boiler for simply letting us know that first you read and comment here as well as give us your feedback on our presence. I personally would like to thank the moderators for allowing those of us who do promote our products here to do so without any pressure to advertise, I know of no other forum that allows it! I think having a company rep to answer questions about their products is very important, Thank you all again!
This forum was the deciding factor in buying my bl 28-40. All the good information on here and Slimjim's loyality  to his product.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Sloppy_Snood on March 14, 2014, 09:37:35 AM
. All the good information on here and Slimjim's loyality  to his product.
^^This.  8)
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: sceptre74 on March 14, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
I have to agree with you Sloppy_Snood.  ;D
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: fryedaddy on March 14, 2014, 12:26:59 PM
Ya'll are making me jealous. I'd love to have BL 2840 but don't have a new stove already.

Really like the design.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Bud Man on March 14, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Newby here but been lurking for months. Since you're offering all this free stuff I had to become a member. 8)
Bought a BL 2840 yesterday from Luke in Eagle Lake, Mn. I had not seen or heard of P&M until I found this website. I had looked at Natures Comfort, Central Boiler, Heatmaster and Shaver, all sold and in use in my area of Iowa. After finding this site, I called P&M and talked to Robert several times and found him very helpful about the boiler and he found an owner about 50 miles from me who let me come look at his set-up. The next day I found an ad for Southern P&M in MN., met up with him at a farm show and bought the boiler. He has it on hand and I will be picking it up in 2 or 3 weeks.
Now the issue of figuring out all the stuff I need to install it :-\
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: slimjim on March 15, 2014, 05:00:51 AM
That's where the forum will be your best asset Bud Man, (funny we like the same beer), I'm a factory rep and will be happy to guide you down that road, I'll PM you my contact info.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: agriffinjd on March 15, 2014, 01:26:46 PM
Not that it's a great big deal but I spoke with Brian this morning and we agree that we would like to track any residual sales from this forum, in order to accurately track it, starting today we will offer a $100 discount on the purchase price of your P+M boiler for simply letting us know that first you read and comment here as well as give us your feedback on our presence. I personally would like to thank the moderators for allowing those of us who do promote our products here to do so without any pressure to advertise, I know of no other forum that allows it! I think having a company rep to answer questions about their products is very important, Thank you all again!

This forum played a HUGE role in my decision to buy a P&M.  I sent in a down payment on a BL 3444.  Does this mean I can knock $100 off the price I already agreed on or is P&M going to send a refund?

I spent weeks researching what to buy as this will be my first OWB on a new home I'm building soon.  I wanted to be sure I made the best choice.  I had it narrowed down to CB and P&M and settled on P&M primarily based on the postings on this forum.  I had already almost made up my mind before I called my dealer for a price quote.

I really like the willingness of Slimjim to answer questions so completely and try to help people find what they need.  The only other place I found online that helped sway me was this guy's review of his P&M gasser: Outdoor Wood Furnace Tour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWTBLqgKpqk#)

Thanks!

Andy
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: Bud Man on March 15, 2014, 09:25:29 PM
Thanks for the PM slimjim. I'm sure I will be in contact with you when I start my install.
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: jnboy9111 on March 18, 2014, 08:22:16 PM
Slimjim,  I have been looking into getting an OWB for several months and am finally ready to make the purchase and have decided to go with the Portage & Main Ultimizer.  I live in Central Virginia and will be heating 4,400 sq ft house and 875 sq ft insulated garage both of which are 7 years old.  I will be using two 100 BTU forced air exchangers, 500 sq ft of radiant flooring, about 15 ft of baseboard heaters in the basement cold spot, and a 100 BTU or so garage heater on a Taco relay with one of the house 100 exchangers on priority.  I am guessing I would probably need the BL3444 based on other posts but most of those seem to be from Canada where its much colder.  Any advise on model and a contact to get this ordered would be appreciated. 

Thanks,
John
Title: Re: Portage and Main
Post by: willowbk on March 20, 2014, 08:22:36 AM
hey slim
if you do get to the subject of free swag w/ brian, would you do me a favor and tell him who started the whole thing.
it would put a little bounce in my step!!!  :)