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Title: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 19, 2014, 07:24:24 AM
I think I know the answer but looking for opinions.

The last few weeks we have had over 4 inches of rain, the problem I am having is water coming into my basement through the tube the lines are in.
I have the 5 wrap in the 4 inch pipe.
I am assuming somehow a hole got into the tubing, I am contemplating digging up the lines and just sliding a 5 or 6 inch tube over the already existing tube..

Good idea or bad idea?

Thanks
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: LittleJohn on May 19, 2014, 07:48:00 AM
Water infiltration KILLS thermal efficiency!!! 

Are you sure its from the pipe or is it the hole in the wall, that the pipes come thru.  Cause if its juist around the hole you might be able to save yourself some digging and hopefully some $$$
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 19, 2014, 08:08:56 AM
Runs right out of the pipe.  Trust me, I really don't want to dig it up again.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: slimjim on May 19, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
Sorry to hear of your troubles John, this is exactly why most of us on here promote the Logstor pipe
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: mlappin on May 19, 2014, 05:09:21 PM
Out of curiosity, what brand pipe was it?
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Big Wood on May 19, 2014, 06:47:51 PM
John how long of a run is it
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Sprinter on May 19, 2014, 08:38:35 PM
Would love pics and brand. Might help with a solution too.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 20, 2014, 04:49:00 AM
As far as brand ?  It is a 5 wrap and the casing is off white.

Still buried in the ground, have not dug it up yet.

50 - 60 foot run Big wood
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Big Wood on May 20, 2014, 08:11:23 AM
Good day John the installation of your wood boiler and the components that make it all work are an investment that is to last you for a long time if taken care of this being said i would recommend that you dig up the old pipe and save it for something else and buy the Logstor pipe and fitting to hook it to your system loss is only a half a degree in a 100 ft.    For the 60 foot run $900.00 plus fittings now on the lighter side of things you know what to tell someone else so they don't make the same mistake,  And bury your new pipe in sand. yes it stinks but do it right and you won't have to worry about it.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Sprinter on May 20, 2014, 10:13:37 AM
First decide whether your gonna replace it, highly recommend you do. Going from that pipe to logstor will save you 10% of you wood usage or more.

On the other hand there are ways to save that pipe, the white casing allows you to do a repair that can't be done on others. Then the process of drying it. Which can be done. Its a bit of work and monitoring. It's something I've done when you can't dig.  Locating the failure will be the hard part.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: mlappin on May 20, 2014, 08:47:04 PM
Sounds like Z-supply but their 5 wrap is in a 5" tile.

Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 22, 2014, 05:24:38 AM
Sounds like Z-supply but their 5 wrap is in a 5" tile.

Received a very surprising and very unexpected call from Z-supply last night.   :thumbup:

Will keep everyone updated.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: slimjim on May 22, 2014, 05:41:44 AM
Perhaps they are watching the forum? That would be nice, if so welcome aboard!
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 22, 2014, 05:54:35 AM
Perhaps they are watching the forum? That would be nice, if so welcome aboard!

Yes,  they are watching the forum   8)
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: slimjim on May 22, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
  i hope they can join us with suggestions for proper installation of their product line! Great Ideas come from conversation!
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 28, 2014, 06:25:03 AM
Here is an update.

Jeff at Z-supply has gone above and beyond.  He has made up another length of pipe and is doing so at no cost to me.

I have told him that I live in a wooded area and beleive a tree root has puctured the casing and I feel it is not thier companies problem.
Yet he is till going to replace it, plus incase it in an additional 5 inch pipe around the 4 inch.

In a time when it seems like customer satisfaction is fading, Jeff and Z-supply have proven that customer satisfaction is still alive and doing well. This kind of business will keep them going.
I know for all my future needs for piping who my business will be with and who's products I will purchase and recomend to others

Thanks again Z-supply
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: mlappin on May 28, 2014, 08:57:21 AM
It is a 5 wrap though in a four inch tile? Thought only three wrap could be had in a four? If I could get a 5 wrap in a 4 inch tile then I could slide it right inside my original pipe without digging it up.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: Johnv656 on May 28, 2014, 01:49:28 PM
It is a 3 wrap in a 4 inch tile
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: mlappin on May 28, 2014, 07:09:32 PM
Ah, my bad. I could have sworn in  a previous post you said a 5 in a 4.

I need to replace my original. Cash was in short supply back then so I used a 4 inch PVC wrapped in Ply foil and slid that inside a six inch PVC, worked great for a lot of years but the last few winters in a few spots I've had snow melting. Was going to pull the four inch and the insulation out and slide some in from Z supply. I don't figure I'd have much luck trying to shove a 5 inch tile thru a 6 inch pipe. Already tried with just ten feet and it's doable, don't think a 110' feet will be.
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: WoodMOJoe on May 29, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
Wow, that is amazing.

Big props to Jeff/ZSupply!   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Water when it rains
Post by: gainerspot on June 23, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
Its good to see a company step up like that.  Last month I bought $700 in Z-supply's and will be getting another $1000 or so before much longer. 

Hats of to Z-supply