Outdoor Wood Furnace Info
All-Purpose OWF Discussions => General Outdoor Furnace Discussion => Topic started by: ruger5901 on November 23, 2014, 05:47:26 PM
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I just closed on a home in Ohio that is currently heated by propane. The home has 33 acres of woods. This spring I will be installing an outdoor wood heater. There seems to be many different choices in styles and brands. The home is in a very remote location. I'm not worried about smoke. Where should I start? Thanks in advance.
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I'd start by making the decision on conventional vs. gassifier and if you want a conventional you better purchase one before April I believe that is going to be the end of conventionals.
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Start cutting wood. Then figure out if you can get a conventional stove there. Then find some dealers around and start looking at stoves and see what you like. And find people that already have them and stop in and talk to them. Most people that have them are happy to talk about them. No better knowledge than 1st hand.
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I won't try to sway you on Brands simply because I have not gotten mine hooked up yet but the 4 top brands that come to my mind.
1- Heatmor
2- Portage and Main
3- Central Boiler
4- Heatmaster
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HI Ruger, I live in Ohio as well and just put a boiler in this year that was purchased back in February. After careful consideration, I chose a Portage and Main (BL 2840). I use this to heat my house of 3000ft^2 and my basement (extra 2000). This stove does a nice job of heating this space and this past week we saw temps into the low teens. Keep reading this site. There's a lot of good people here with a lot of good information.
As Merrell suggested, one thing is for sure - Start cutting wood!! ;D
Take a look at the recent thread below for more input from others.
Gassers vs. conventional - Looking for input from those that have had both
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Yea I'm not sure which would be best for me. I plan on keeping an abundance of dry wood at all times. Is the gassifier more efficient?
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Yea I'm not sure which would be best for me. I plan on keeping an abundance of dry wood at all times. Is the gassifier more efficient?
Yes, you're actually burning your smoke as well.
Stack temps are also lower, lower stack temps mean more heat transferred to your water instead of the environment.
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Yes gassifier are more efficient like mlappin has said a little more maintenance but burns less wood and maintainence is easier than logging. I don't mind cutting and splitting wood and could not afford a gassifier so I went the traditional route.
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I was you 10 months ago, I went with ridgewood stoves because of price and quality.
It's my first stove and my total installed price is under 6k, it does everything my neighbors central boilers, woodmaster do.
Simple stove
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I had been researching them for about 3 years and recently bought a gassifier. I have 27 acres of hardwoods at home and nearly unlimited red oak by our cabin. I am 26 and still enjoy cutting firewood all weekend long. I chose the gasifier because even for me wood isn't free. I still have to run and maintain my saws and truck. I also like the increased effeciency but there is a learning curve to keep the gassifiers running at peak effeciency.
I also paid more for what I believe is a very well built boiler. I do not want to have to replace it for a long time and definitely do not want to deal with it taking a crap or start leaking in the middle of winter
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I just got a quote today for a portage and main BL 2840. I was told around 8k ...... Not including instilation. Seem about right?
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Yep that is correct I think I paid 7900 not including tax
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Have a Central Boiler 1400. Been 4 years and love it!
Good luck.
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I was quoted 8300 just for the PM boiler, it was 14,000 total install. That was a dealer here in millersburg Ohio.
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Love the 2840. Very efficient for a conventional OWB. I live in KY. Purchased mine early this year. Shop is hooked up and running. Working on house design. Can't wait to heat all structures....
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Really like my MF 5000 had in door stove for 18yrs I think there's less work with owb aprox $8500 invested install done by me . I would definitely spend extra $ on Urd insulated Pipe rehau was 10.50 a ft . Good luck
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I was quoted 8300 just for the PM boiler, it was 14,000 total install. That was a dealer here in millersburg Ohio.
Walkerdog, that seems extremely high.....certainly for the install but also for the boiler as well. I think list price for the 28-40 is $7900 (may have went up since ~ 6 months ago). What all is involved in your install? I completed mine myself and have and have kept a list of all expenses involved, right down to the rental of the mini-excavator and the gravel pad and am sitting right at $10,300. This is just to heat the house. I've not hooked up hot water yet. I figure I'll have ~$300 per tank.
What is all involved in your install.
I spoke to the folks in Millersburg when I bought mine and at the same time they wanted to charge me the high end of the scale, they also didn't even have anything in stock to show me.....and this was back in January of this year.
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I was just calling as I was considering selling my hardy but after talking to him I'm not going to do it. That was complete install with me not doing any thing. I had 9600 complete install in my Hardy in 2012. So far so go woth it though. I just always want things that are new and improved... Lol
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Understand that although you have very good intentions of keeping a large supply of dry wood on hand,that can become very difficult. Conventionals are going to be more forgiving than gassers. I love cutting wood and I get laid off in the winter but life happens and I find it hard to get more than a coupl months ahead. The novelty of being self sufficient in the heating dept. will more than likely wear off after time and staying years ahead on your wood supply will become very difficult. I would recommend starting with a conventional and seeing how things go first. Conventionals will be a very easy sell shortly after April so don't worry about getting stuck with it if you decide your ready for a gasser. Their will be one hell of a black market for these things next year! This site will lead you to the right stove just make sure you have a dealer CLOSE by to service whatever you choose.